The Last Testament (Vol 5) ~ 06

event type	interview
date & time	23 Dec 1985 pm
location	Manali (HP)
language	English
audio	Available, duration 1h 32min. Quality: good, but a slight constant noise.
online audio	free download from OshoWorld
video	Not available
online video
see also	timeline : Osho Timeline 1985 first edition : The Last Testament (Vol 5) (1994 on CD-ROM) other editions, translations and links
online text	find the PDF of this discourse
shorttitle	LAST506

notes

synopsis

Interview. No announcement heard : unidentified Indian interviewer, man.

CD-ROM on this chapter: Interview with Delhi Recorder.

Question 1

Could you tell us something about your routine over here?

Question 2

But you had stopped giving interviews in the last fifteen days. I believe we are very lucky to have got an interview today.

Question 3

But do you think there is a concerted movement to harass you?

Question 4

Well, who would you say would be behind this movement?

Question 5

The American government -- even here in India?

Question 6

Apart from this case, is there any other case in which you have been summoned?

Question 7

I see, from different place...

Question 8

But why should the American government be so interested in harassing you? Now? Here in India?

Question 9

So how did it function?

Question 10

So there will never be another Rajneeshpuram?

Question 11

Can you name them?

Question 12

Western governments?

Question 13

But are they European governments, or other Western governments?

Question 14

What about your plans for this place? You are already becoming quite an attraction here, and as you had said on television also that suppose the Indian government were to cooperate with you...

Question 15

We believe you have received offers of land donations from far and wide.

Question 16

But here there's another thing: Why is the government so hostile to you... I mean, any government anywhere they are always very hostile.

Question 17

Is it true that you had said that you are no longer Bhagwan?

Question 18

It has appeared everywhere.

Question 19

You ar still very much the same person you were?

Question 20

It's not that you disbanded your commune?

Question 21

What happened to those four thousand people or so who were living in Rajneeshpuram? I mean, they cannot be accommodated here... or are they being accommodated in your communes all over the world?

Question 22

What about those many people -- hundreds come to you here for darshan at this resort: Have you got any program for them? -- because they are coming to you with a need.

Question 23

Which part of the world?

Question 24

In the Mediterranean?

Question 25

And Canada?

Question 26

Towards the Pacific side or the Atlantic?

Question 27

And it will be on the same lines as the one in Oregon?

Question 28

Only bigger?

Question 29

And better, perhaps?

Question 30

Which Nobel prize winners?

Question 31

What's his name now; do you recall that?

Question 32

I see. Do you personally give them a name?

Question 33

It must have become very big now.

Question 34

So can you talk about this open university and what education means to you?

Question 35

But aren't plants also alive?

Question 36

This is what you plan to have on your island?

Question 37

In Rajneeshpuram?

Question 38

But has there been any response to your offer for a university that you had made on television?

Question 39

But how would this thing be helpful to the government and to the Indian nation in general? By making better people?

Question 40

Why do you say that?

Question 41

What about pandit Nehru?

Question 42

But wasn't that being a practical politician? To toe the line of Gandhi and keep your own ideas at the same time?

Question 43

And what about our present prime minister, Rajiv Gandhi? How do you rate him?

Question 44

You mean that will be the test?

Question 45

You will not change to please them?

Question 46

Don't you think all these experiences have brought about any change in your personal character?

Question 47

Why do you evoke such extreme reactions in people? -- either they are ready to kill for you or they are ready to kill you?

Question 48

Has power corrupted you?

Question 49

But you have; you wield tremendous power with your followers at least. It has brought no change in you?

Question 50

It's a way of looking at things?

Question 51

Even love has a lot of power.

Question 52

So you had all these newspapers writing about diamond-studded watches, and real gold cadillacs!

Question 53

Talking of love and the way you talk about love over here, do you have a special affinity for the sufi saint poets like Vardishah, Baba Free, or guru Nanak?

Question 54

But then didn't Gandhi also aspire to the same thing?

Question 55

Do you agree with the Gita and its philosophy?

Question 56

But isn't Krishna supposed to be God himself?

Question 57

This was in the time when Pakistan was going to attack Kashmir, just after?

Question 58

Could you now explain: What do you mean by 'sannyas'? What is the concept?

Question 59

No, but what sort of system does your university have?

Question 60

But how soon do you think you will be able to establish this sort of a university?

Question 61

So in one month, two months?

Question 62

But an approximate time-frame... How soon?

Question 63

Would you say that you are a free man?

Question 64

Are you a sannyasin?

Question 65

Would you explain this word? -- it intrigues me.

Question 66

I believe you started one of your first initiation camps in Manali?

Question 67

Is it a coincidence you are back here or what do you call it? -- destiny?

Question 68

How do you interpret it? Was this the will of god that you should be back here again?

Question 69

Does it have any significance, your coming back?

Question 70

No difficulties here, no inhibitions, no restrictions?

Question 71

You said that you were an absolutely free person: don't you feel hemmed in now by the sort of celebrity you have acquired?

Question 72

No, but there are so many people around you all the time.

(source:CD-ROM)

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