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syn = Reader of the sutras | syn = Reader of the sutras and questions: [[Ma Prem Maneesha]].<br>After discourse Osho leads [[Let-Go Meditation]]. | ||
:The sutra | |||
::A monk asked Chimon, "What will the lotus flower be when it has not yet come out of the water?" | |||
::Chimon said, "The lotus flower." | |||
::The monk asked Chimon, "What about when it is out of the water?" | |||
::Chimon said, "The lotus leaves." | |||
::Setcho says: | |||
::The lotus leaves! The lotus flower! | |||
::He is so kind to tell you of them! | |||
::The flower coming out of the water -- | |||
::What difference, before or after? | |||
::If you wander about, now north of | |||
::The river, now south of the lake, | |||
::Questioning master Wang and the like, | |||
::As one doubt is settled, others will arise, | |||
::And you will puzzle over question after question. | |||
:Question 1 | |||
::Osho, isn't the lotus flower a lotus flower at its conception: When it is floating in the pond and when it is plucked from the pond? | |||
:Question 2 | |||
::I have heard you tell us time and again that the realization of our enlightenment is inevitable -- whether it be this minute, tomorrow, or the next life around. | |||
::Would you talk about where the individual's responsibility lies for what is going to happen anyway? | |||
:Question 3 | |||
::What are the prerequisites for being a disciple? | |||
:([[Glossary#source_of_quotes_in_the_synopsis|source:''CD-ROM'']]) | |||
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prevevent = Live Zen ~ 06 | | prevevent = Live Zen ~ 06 | | ||
nextevent = Live Zen ~ 08 | | nextevent = Live Zen ~ 08 | |
Revision as of 09:09, 16 April 2019
event type | discourse & meditation |
date & time | 28 Apr 1988 pm |
location | Gautam the Buddha Auditorium, Pune |
language | English |
audio | Available, duration 1h 4min. Quality: good. Osho leading meditation from 55:40. Live music after the discourse. |
online audio | |
video | Available, duration 1h 9min. Quality: good, but a constant audio-noise, especially during questions. |
online video | |
see also |
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online text | find the PDF of this discourse |
shorttitle | LIVEZ07 |
- notes
- synopsis
- Reader of the sutras and questions: Ma Prem Maneesha.
After discourse Osho leads Let-Go Meditation.
- The sutra
- A monk asked Chimon, "What will the lotus flower be when it has not yet come out of the water?"
- Chimon said, "The lotus flower."
- The monk asked Chimon, "What about when it is out of the water?"
- Chimon said, "The lotus leaves."
- Setcho says:
- The lotus leaves! The lotus flower!
- He is so kind to tell you of them!
- The flower coming out of the water --
- What difference, before or after?
- If you wander about, now north of
- The river, now south of the lake,
- Questioning master Wang and the like,
- As one doubt is settled, others will arise,
- And you will puzzle over question after question.
- Question 1
- Osho, isn't the lotus flower a lotus flower at its conception: When it is floating in the pond and when it is plucked from the pond?
- Question 2
- I have heard you tell us time and again that the realization of our enlightenment is inevitable -- whether it be this minute, tomorrow, or the next life around.
- Would you talk about where the individual's responsibility lies for what is going to happen anyway?
- Question 3
- What are the prerequisites for being a disciple?
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