Talk:Bharat Ke Jalte Prashna (भारत के जलते प्रश्न)

As usual, there are matters of transliteration and spelling, mainly around Prashan - प्रश्न. Fortunately this time, they don't amount to much, but shall be expounded on for the sake of completeness. Astute observers will have noticed that the last word, प्रश्न, does not look much like the last word on the cover image. In fact, i could not replicate this word as text. The closest i could come was प्रशन, which has one more vertical stroke, which could not be eliminated. So be it. When it comes down to it, it does not affect searches at all, प्रशन and प्रश्न being more or less interchangeable in terms of finding each other, and the same for Prashan and Prashna for that matter, with प्रश्न and Prashan being more common.

There are considerable difficulties connected with this book having to do with the ISBN of the 2011 edition though. Searching for ISBN 8184193211, one finds a number of anomalies which just should not be. The search results are dominated by another book appearing to have the same ISBN. More about that book below. Also among the search results, in fact near the top, is yet another book called Drudgery of the Hill Women. This amusing title has actually showed up in quite a few ISBN searches for Osho books, ie different ISBNs, and always at the same bookseller, bookshopofindia.in, and always well-placed in search results. Net mavens may speculate on how this can occur or be managed.

The usually reliable Printsasia is listed among the search results, with Osho as the author and this book sort of as the title, but the number of anomalies in just this one result is breathtaking. It reports the pub year as 2008, has two different page counts, 357 and 366, has the title run together with Swarnpakhi -- see main page -- thusly: भारत के जलते प्रश्न स्वर्णपाखी था जो कभी, has the completely weird cover at right instead of Osho and in the G**gle search results page (though not on its own page), reports the book as being published by Fusion. (And no, Fusion is not in G**gle's cache of that page either.)

Weird enough for you?

About the book that got the most hits for ISBN 8184193211, that's Dynamic Memory English Speaking Course Through Arabic, by Biswaroop Roy Choudhary. And guess what? That book's cover turns out to be the one at right, and its author listed as the author of Drudgery, though misspelled. FWIW, he is also alleged to be the author of at least ten other Dynamic Memory English Speaking Course books in different languages, from Tamil to Assamese, all with the same snake-oil picture but different scripts.

Getting back to Osho's book, astute observers will also have noticed that the page counts for the three different editions are all quite different: 152, 366 and 544. This cannot just be a matter of different print sizes and likely means that the larger editions include some or all of the rest of Swarnpakhi, as hinted by Printsasia's title. Stay tuned!

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And this update:

Neeten's Appendix page (see Osho Source Book link at his page) is loaded with factual information about Osho's early work, but still in rough form (as of this writing) and not all confirmed for accuracy. When we come to Swarn Pakhi, the über-series, we find the info below, which may be useful if adapted with a little inspiration:

There is only one entry for Swarn Pakhi per se, a single date, Apr 1, 1970 in Bombay. We may suppose that this is one of its discourses, which may be scattered around on different dates, or may be all in one chunk, since there is a decent-size gap following that time (see Osho Discourses 1970). There IS a talk the day before, Mar 31, in Jabalpur, which may or may not be a conflict.

There is stronger info about the other parts of the series, but there are snags there too: There are three entries for Samajwad Se Savdhan, enough for the three other volumes of Swarn Pakhi, and as if that were the über-name. In any case, it is not much of a stretch to take these three entries to refer to the first three volumes, especially as they correspond well regarding discourse counts (5, 5 and 4). The relevant section of the appendix reads:

Samajwad Se Savdhaan. 13-17.03.1970. 5 talks. Bombay. [(Bharat Ke Jalte Prashan (भारत के जलते प्रश्न))]

Vidroh Kya Hai? 31.03.1970. [the talk in Jabalpur]

Swarn Pakhi Tha Jo Kabhi (India, Socialism, Gandhi, Communism). 01.04.1970. Bombay. (A)

Samajvaad Se Saavdhan. 13.04-17.04.1970. [(The real Samajwad Se Savdhan (समाजवाद से सावधान))]

[ . . . ]

Samajwad Se Savdhaan. 08-11.08.1970. 4 talks. [(Samajvad Arthat Atmaghat (समाजवाद अर्थात आत्मघात))]

At this point we are in surmise-land, not really proven TRVTH, but it looks good enough for a provisional go, so allons-y. -- Sarlo (talk) 00:17, 1 July 2014 (PDT)

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प्रवचन (TOC):

1. समस्याओं के ढेर

2. गरीबी और समाजवाद

3. राष्ट्रभाषा और खण्डित देश

4. पूंजीवाद और अनिवार्यता

5. भारत के भटके युवक