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Revision as of 00:11, 15 March 2019
A correspondent has shared his research into Osho's Manuscripts. Some of Osho's early writings have turned out to be fact-based accounts of his travels, speeches, and the events of the time. The research is organized into several batches, corresponding to the particular groups of manuscripts where info was found. All info presented is annotated, ie which sheet of the manuscripts it derives from is clearly indicated, so one can also study them for oneself. In some cases, Osho's notes contain the full text of early unpublished discourses, though not in this batch.
This batch, the third in the series, derives from a small group of just three pages at Manuscripts ~ Programmes. It is particularly short but concentrated, mostly a schedule of talks running from Apr 25 to Aug 10 and another small group from Jan 26 to Feb 6. These manuscripts do not include the year, as it was not needed for Osho's notes about his program for a few months. Comparison with existing Timelines makes 1968-69 look reasonably likely for the larger time frame. See the Analysis below for details on that.
Other batches in this series are:
- (1) Manuscripts ~ Messages Timeline Extraction
- (2) Manuscripts ~ Notebooks Timeline Extraction
- (4) Manuscripts ~ Reports Timeline Extraction (under construction)
Dates | Event Description and Notes | Wiki Notes, Comments |
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Sheet 1R -- (Probable year 1968) | see Analysis below for details | |
Apr 25 om | Delhi, "Vichargoshthi" | "Vichargoshthi" translates variously as seminar, symposium, etc |
Apr 28 pm | Jabalpur - Shahid Smarak Bhawan - Lecture | |
May 2 - 5 | Nargol - Meditation camp | Precisely these dates at Nargol are already in Osho Timeline 1968 |
May 6 pm | Bombay- Lecture to Progressive group at Bhartiya Vidhya Bhawan | also in Osho Timeline 1968 |
May 7 am | Bombay - Jain Social Group – Lecture at Birla Kreeda Kendra (7th May, 61 he was at Jabalpur as per Notebook Vol 1) | |
May 15 pm | Poona - Spring Lecture series | |
May 17 am | Poona - Lecture at Antarbharti (16th to 23 May 63 he was at Gadarwara, as per Notebook Vol 2) | |
May 18 - 20 | Junagarh - meditation camp | |
May 20 om | Saurashtra - Discussions with Jeevan Jagriti Kendra workers | |
Jun 9 - 11 | Udaipur – Meditation camp | |
Jun 11 om | Udaipur - Lecture at Rajasthan teachers' conference | Udaipur not explicitly mentioned but inferred |
Jun 21 pm | Porbandar Rotary Club | |
Jun 21 - 23 | Porbandar - meditation camp | |
Sheet 1V -- | clearly continuing from Sheet 1R | |
Jun 23 om | Porbandar, Lecture At Girls boarding school. | |
Jul 3 - 5 | huge Satsang in Bhavnagar | |
Jul 3 om | massive gathering of women in Bhavnagar | |
Jul 5 om | Bhavnagar - Lecture to Teachers and students | |
Jul 20 - 23 | Indore – Knowledge session at Ravindranath Tagore Dance Theatre | |
Jul 20 om | Indore – Discussion with Jeevan Jagriti Kendra workers | |
(Probably) Jul 21 | Indore Discussion with young News Reporters (At press club-Probably) | Date and "press club" not mentioned in manuscript |
(Probably) Jul 22 | Indore Lecture to large gathering of students | Date not mentioned in manuscript |
Aug 7 pm | Gadarwara – Lecture | |
Aug 8 pm | Gadarwara - "Vichargoshthi" | |
Aug 10 pm | Jabalpur - Lecture at Shahid Smarak Bhawan (10th Oct, 30th September also) | |
(Manuscripts ~ Messages – contains record from 30th Sept to 14th October, It may be this period then it is 1968 or 1969+ if beyond this time or before this time as notebook form was maintained in some period) | ||
Sheet 2 -- | early 1969? See Analysis below. | |
Jan 26 | Pipariya - Lecture at "people's gathering". | |
Jan 29 | Jabalpur – Lecture at Vishva Maitri Sangh (World friendship organisation) | |
Feb 2 | Jabalpur – Lecture at Technical School | |
Feb 4 - 6 | Shrirampur - "Satsang" |
Analysis
About our correspondent's "probably" speculations regarding certain of the facts about Indore, there is no basis for them in the manuscripts, but no harm in accepting them conditionally with a .
The main event here concerns nailing the year.
Evidence for 1968 being the year applying to the dates in Sheets 1R and 1V is fairly compelling. First, there is no conflicting info, eg dates when he is in Mumbai in the existing Timeline and in Gadarwara in the above, though of course the absence of conflicting info does not by itself prove anything. It is merely essential, but not conclusive. However, the two matchups, the Nargol camp from May 2 to 5 and the talk in Bhartiya Vidhya Bhawan the next night, are conclusive. There are not going to be two Nargol camps on May 2-5 in different years. There is one quibble with the May 6 event: the date and venue match up but the nature of the audience does not exactly. But there is plenty of wiggle room to not have to worry about that.
It has been observed, especially in Manuscripts ~ Messages Timeline Extraction, that establishing the year for one sheet does not necessarily establish it for the next in any given group. They may be random bits of paper thrown together. Here, let's see ...
First, Sheets 1R and 1V are not randomly thrown together, they are Recto and Verso, flip sides of each other. And the dates and places in 1V are clearly a continuation of those in 1R. A no-brainer.
But Sheet 2 is another matter. It will be a stretch to fit it into the 1969 Timeline. Reproduced below is the relevant section of that timeline.
date | location | event |
26 Jan 1969 am | Jabalpur | Naye Bharat Ka Janm ~ 01 ** ( नये भारत का जन्म ) |
30 Jan 1969 | Bombay | Shanti Ki Khoj (2) ~ 01 ** ( शांति की खोज / The Search for Peace ) |
31 Jan 1969 am | Bombay | Naye Bharat Ka Janm ~ 02 ** ( नये भारत का जन्म ) |
31 Jan 1969 | Bombay | Shanti Ki Khoj (2) ~ 02 ** ( शांति की खोज / The Search for Peace ) |
1 Feb 1969 | Bombay | Shanti Ki Khoj (2) ~ 03 ** ( शांति की खोज / The Search for Peace ) |
1 Feb 1969 | Bombay | Kya Sove Tu Bavri ~ 01 ** ( क्या सोवे तू बावरी ) |
2 Feb 1969 | Bombay | Shanti Ki Khoj (2) ~ 04 ** ( शांति की खोज / The Search for Peace ) |
The first potential conflict, on Jan 26, is not difficult. The Timeline event in Jabalpur is in the morning and Pipariya is not prohibitively far, an easy drive. Getting from Jabalpur on Jan 29th to Mumbai on the 30th is also not difficult.
But getting back to Jabalpur for a talk Feb 2 after one the same day in Mumbai may be fairly difficult. He would have to fly, not a common occurrence in those days but not impossible.
There is no conflict with the camp dates of Feb 4-6 for Shrirampur. It is back in West-central Maharashtra and would have been much easier if there were no Feb 2 date in Jabalpur, but ... hmmmm. Another possibility is that the Feb 2 talk was scheduled but cancelled and/or re-scheduled.
We should also consider other years for these dates. 1968, 1966 and 1965 have prohibitive conflicts (early Feb was a popular time for camps). 1967 is possible, other years seem unlikely, just too early, especially for a meditation camp. On the other side, 1970 has no conflicts and is also possible. After that, Osho's travels become much more focused and circumscribed.
In the end, we might say that, though 1969 has a problem, it still might be the best fit, because the throwing together of these sheets may not be entirely random. 1969's one serious potential conflict could be resolved by Osho flying. 1967 and 1970, being further away from the solid 1968 dates of Sheet 1R / 1V, are simply less likely to have been thrown together with it.