God Is Dead Now Zen Is ~ 05
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| event type | discourse & meditation |
| date & time | 10 Feb 1989 pm |
| location | Gautam the Buddha Auditorium, Pune |
| language | English |
| audio | Available, duration 3h 45min. Quality: good. Osho leading meditation from 3:26:52. Live music after the discourse. |
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| video | Available, duration 3h 39min. Quality: good. |
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| online text | find the PDF of this discourse |
| shorttitle | GDEAD05 |
- notes
- Sekito’s poem Sandokai that Osho refers to in chapters 5 and 6 has been translated for Osho from the ancient Chinese into English by Kentaro Komori.
- synopsis
- Reader of the sutra: Ma Prem Maneesha. Questions are being read by Osho himself.
After discourse Osho leads No-Mind Meditation.
- The sutra
- Sekito wrote:
- The mind of the great sage of India was intimately communicated from India to China. In human beings there are wise men and fools, but on the way there is no Northern or Southern teacher. The mysterious source is clear and bright, the branching streams flow through the darkness.
- To be attached to the relative, this is illusion, but to take to oneself the absolute is not enlightenment.
- Each and all the elements of the subjective and objective spheres are related, and at the same time independent; related, yet working differently, though each keeps its own place.
- Form makes the character and appearance different; sound, taste, smell, distinguish comfort and discomfort.
- The dark makes all things one; the brightness makes all things different.
- The four elements return to their nature, as a child to its mother.
- Fire is hot, wind moves, water is wet, earth hard. Eyes see, ears hear; the nose smells, the tongue tastes, one salt, another sour.
- Each is independent of the other, but the different leaves come from the same root.
- Question 1
- Could one summarize the difference between a god-oriented religion and the quality of religiousness as the difference between a judge external to us, a projected conscience, and a witness within our consciousness?
- Question 2
- It seems life is not the ultimate value, the mechanical man is expendable. God is nothing more than a sick fantasy; obviously, that cannot be the ultimate value. What then, does that leave us with?
- Question 3
- Primitive societies have always conceptualized god as parts of the environment, such as rivers, trees, and the sun and moon. As societies became more civilized, they began to conceptualize god as a separate individual. Why is this?
- Question 4
- Our Beloved Master, Friedrich Nietzsche condemns man for his lack of creativity in not being able to produce a better concept of god than the Christian one -- which he regards as the sickest, the most decrepit, which he calls "this pitiable god of Christian monotono-theism."
- Do you agree that the Christian version of god is the most ugly?
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