Live Zen ~ 07

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event type discourse & meditation
date & time 28 Apr 1988 pm
location Gautam the Buddha Auditorium, Pune
language English
audio Available, duration 1h 4min. Quality: good.
Osho leading meditation from 55:40.
Live music after the discourse.
online audio
video Available, duration 1h 9min. Quality: good, but a constant audio-noise, especially during questions.
online video
see also
online text find the PDF of this discourse
shorttitle LIVEZ07
notes
synopsis
Reader of the sutras and questions: Ma Prem Maneesha.
After discourse Osho leads Let-Go Meditation.
The sutra
A monk asked Chimon, "What will the lotus flower be when it has not yet come out of the water?"
Chimon said, "The lotus flower."
The monk asked Chimon, "What about when it is out of the water?"
Chimon said, "The lotus leaves."
Setcho says:
The lotus leaves! The lotus flower!
He is so kind to tell you of them!
The flower coming out of the water --
What difference, before or after?
If you wander about, now north of
The river, now south of the lake,
Questioning master Wang and the like,
As one doubt is settled, others will arise,
And you will puzzle over question after question.


Question 1
Osho, isn't the lotus flower a lotus flower at its conception: When it is floating in the pond and when it is plucked from the pond?
Question 2
I have heard you tell us time and again that the realization of our enlightenment is inevitable -- whether it be this minute, tomorrow, or the next life around.
Would you talk about where the individual's responsibility lies for what is going to happen anyway?
Question 3
What are the prerequisites for being a disciple?


(source:CD-ROM)


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