Live Zen ~ 14

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event type discourse & meditation
date & time 5 May 1988 pm
location Gautam the Buddha Auditorium, Pune
language English
audio Available, duration 1h 9min. Quality: good.
Osho leading meditation from 1:02:10.
Live music after the discourse.
online audio
video Available, duration 1h 15min. Quality: good, but Osho arriving not so good.
online video
see also
online text find the PDF of this discourse
shorttitle LIVEZ14
notes
synopsis
Reader of the sutras and questions: Ma Prem Maneesha.
After discourse Osho leads Let-Go Meditation.
The sutra
Kasan said, "Learning by study is called hearing; learning no more is called nearness; transcending these two is true passing."
A monk asked, "What is true passing?"
Kasan said, "Beating the drum."
The monk asked again, "What is the true teaching of the Buddha?"
Kasan said, "Beating the drum."
The monk asked once more, "I would not ask you about this very mind is the Buddha, but what is no mind, no Buddha?"
Kasan said, "Beating the drum."
The monk still continued to ask: "When an enlightened one comes, how do you treat him?"
Kasan said, "Beating the drum."
Setcho put it like this:
Dragging a stone, carrying earth,
Use the spiritual power of a thousand-ton bow.
Zokotsu Roshi rolled out three wooden balls;
How could they surpass Kasan's beating the drum?
I will tell you, what is sweet is sweet,
What is bitter, bitter.


Question 1
Osho, would you agree with Kasan that there is a state beyond learning?
Question 2
Is it possible to hear through the eyes and see with the ears? That's what feels to be happening during these discourses.
Would you please comment?
Question 3
What did the monk mean by his last question? To speak of how to treat a buddha sounds as if one has some control over how one will be in his presence, as if there might be a certain protocol to be observed.
Would you please explain?


(source:CD-ROM)


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