Talk:Dekh Kabira Roya (देख कबीरा रोया)

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The (partial) e-book at Osho World and other fine sites which have copied from it does a lot to confirm the basic structure of Dekh, and likely its one-time publication. It is unusual in these e-books to have such a clear TOC, with page numbers and sections. Unfortunately, it does not have the whole book's text, only about one quarter of it, and in that only three dates and places for the talks, but that too helps to confirm its basic era. Neeten's Appendix section also has a couple of mentions of Dekh: one with dates overlapping those of the e-book gives four talks on Dec 2 and 3, 1968. They fit very well if applied to the first four chapters. Neeten's other mention is more of a smilie-btw: the soundtrack of that Bollywood flick was among Osho's collection of LP's that he listened to regularly in the 60s.

The e-book's TOC below appears after the foreword. Two systems of page numbers are referenced in it: The main one gives page numbers for each of the thirty chapters, and strongly suggests a one-time hard copy of the three-in-one version of Dekh. The sporadic one, with numbers in parentheses, references pages of the e-book where particular info is found. -- doofus-9 (talk) 17:06, 20 December 2014 (PST)


Shailendra has come along with some info on Dekh. He says that discourse #21 is Where Are the Gandhians?, putting it on Jul 19, 1969. This has more or less been confirmed via audio research, and for that matter, it can be seen in the TOC table below. See WatG's talk page for details.

A second column has been added to the TOC to represent osho.com and Osho World audiobook offerings. Both have discourses in the same order, paralleling that of the e-book, but excluding Aswikriti, which is offered separately by o.com and not at all by OW. Thus the e-book's ch 9 = the audiobook's discourse 1, and so on. They are each missing some chapters / discourses, indicated with an *, but each chapter is available at one or the other, except for #7 & 8 from Aswikriti. -- doofus-9 03:03, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Chapter number, name, page-numbers in the book audiobook nr OW audio
Foreword by Ashakarana Pathak
अनुक्रम (TOC):

Aswikriti Mein Utha Haath (अस्वीकृति में उठा हाथ)
1. एक मृत महापुरुष का जन्मा 1-15
2. एक और असहमति 17-28
3. अतीत के मरघट से मुक्ति 29-41
4. संचेतना के ठोस आयाम 43-56 -- Mumbai, 3 Dec 1968 (p 50)
5. तोड़ने का एक और उपक्रम 57-68 -- Mumbai, 4 Dec 1968 (p 59)
6. उगती हुई जमीन 69-80 -- Mumbai, 4 Dec 1968 (p 70)
7. लकीरों से हट कर 81-92
8. अंधेरे कूपों में हलचल 93-102 -- This chapter omitted in e-book



1
2
3
4
5
6
7*
8*

Gandhiwaad: Ek Aur Sameeksha (गांधीवाद : एक और समीक्षा)

9. गांधी का चिंतन अवैज्ञानिक है 103-115 -- This chapter goes on from (p 80) to the end of the e-book on (p 114) with no apparent chapter break, so it very likely has incorporated other material, perhaps even the whole of the rest of Gandhiwaad, though the chap 10 and 11 titles were not seen on closer re-inspection.
10. मेरी दृष्टि में रचनात्मक क्या है 117-130
11. गांधीवाद ही नहीं, वाद मात्र के विरोध में हूं 131-146


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2
3


9


10
11

Dekh Kabira Roya (देख कबीरा रोया)

12. समाजवाद का पहला कदम: पूंजीवाद 147-172
13. समाजवाद: पूंजीवाद का विकास 173-190
14. पूंजीवाद का दर्शन 191-205
15. भौतिक समृद्धि: अध्यात्म का आधार 207-219
16. विध्वंस: सृजन का प्रारंभ 221-235
17. असली अपराधी: राजनीतिज्ञ 237-260
18. प्रेम-विवाह: जातिवाद का अंत 261-272
19. परस्पर-निर्भरता और विश्व नागरिकता 273-290
20. वैज्ञानिक विकास और बदलते जीवन-मूल्य 291-305
21. गांधीवादी कहां हैं ? 307-325
22. विचार-क्रांति की भूमिका 327-341
23. गांधी की रुग्ण-दृष्टि 343-358
24. राष्ट्रभाषा: अ-लोकतांत्रिक 359-377
25. समाजवाद: परिपक्व पूंजीवाद का परिणाम 379-392
26. गांधीवाद: दरिद्रता का दर्शन 393-406
27. गांधी पर पुनर्विचार 407-424
28. अनिवार्य संतति-नियमन 425-437
29. गांधी से मुक्ति 439-447
30. देख कबीरा रोया 449-452


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5
6
7*
8*
9
10
11
12*
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21*
22*


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13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26*
27
28*
29*
30


media status

I have added a third column with the numbers of the other OshoWorld audio offering, the free downloads. Numbers with * are missing. It should be checked if these audios really are the same recording. --Sugit (talk) 07:25, 5 December 2018 (UTC)



Shailendra's e-book has the same TOC except the order of first 8 chapters: 1-1, 2-3, 3-5, 4-2, 5-6, 6-7, 7-4, 8-8 .--DhyanAntar 07:51, 10 September 2018 (UTC)


And fwiw, this different order of chapter numbers corresponds to the audiobook offerings on osho.com, EXCEPT that a) they have no #8, b) #6's title is not found in their aggregation, c) they have used #8's title (अँधेरे कूपों मैं हलचल) for their #7 but it is still unavailable, and d) they have made #7 available by making it #4. -- doofus-9 18:54, 22 December 2018 (UTC)