Talk:Dhyan Darshan (ध्यान दर्शन)
The audio versions of this series have all ten discourses, presented below. This cannot be thought of as a TOC in this case, except perhaps for the long-lost Rebel edition, since the Diamond edition, at 176 pages, has only seven chapters, none of whose titles align with those below. What to say of the Hind edition, at only 136 pages? The Diamond edition fwiw names the editors as Sw Anand Maitreya, Sw Chaitanya Bharti and a third, apparently non-sannyasin editor, whose name i cannot entirely make out. They also name other sannyasins involved in the production but these all may be names left over from the Rebel edition. This all per the G**gle Books version available online.
Meanwhile, there is the question of when the discourses were. Only one source mentions DD, Neeten's Osho Source Book, but he has it on the same dates as Dhyan-Sutra (ध्यान-सूत्र), those dates being the meditation camp at Mahableshwar in Feb 1965. He also has it with only nine discourses, the same as Dhyan Sutra, as it happens. It is not out of the question that he has got the two mixed up, but in any case, Dhyan Sutra's claim is slightly more compelling so it has the nod for now. Stay tuned! -- updated doofus-9 (talk) 06:30, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
Update: Text remnants of osho.com's audio pages (404, but some bits found via G**gle's cache) yielded the Hindi series squib now in the article's description section, which reveals that Dhyan Darshan was indeed a camp, in Mumbai of all places. No dates were given, but this info pretty well finishes off its candidacy for the Feb '65 Mahableshwar camp.
And this small find led to a re-invigorated search which eventually turned up the book info, also at o.com, and that in part indicated that Dynamic Meditation was something Osho talked about, placing the camp after mid-1970, when he first created Dynamic.
- Further update: Shailendra has supplied the Dec '70 dates in an email. -- 16:36, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
Below, the Osho World audiobook TOC has more or less been confirmed by o.com's TOC for the book (OMI version). The three small differences have been indicated, with the OMI book's version, likely the more correct, in parentheses.
And fwiw, the Rebel and OMI versions have similar but different covers, perhaps reflecting their not-quite-different ISBN's (difference is only between ISBN-13 and ISBN-10 formats). Still no edition # or pub date. -- doofus-9 02:44, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- प्रवचन:
- 1. ध्यान: नया जन्म
- 2. ध्यान: स्वयं में डुबकी
- 3. ध्यान: गुह्य आयामों में प्रवेश
- 4. आध्यात्मिक विज्ञान (ध्यानः आध्यात्मिक विज्ञान)
- 5. संन्यास: एक संकल्प
- 6. ध्यान: सीधी छलांग
- 7. ध्यान: समाधि की भूमिका
- 8. ध्यान: भीतर की यात्रा
- 9. ध्यान परम स्वास्थ्य का द्वार (ध्यानः परम स्वास्थ्य का द्वार)
- 10. ध्यान का अनुसरण (ध्यानः प्यास का अनुसरण)
The image at the right of the contents page from the 2012 Hind edition confirms the TOC, and in particular, the OMI version. In addition, it sorts out a couple of small niggling points.
- The minor difference in ch 4 is only the omission of "Dhyan:".
- The apparently nonexistent difference in ch 9 arises possibly because of a software difference: The word द्वार (dwar) appears to be the same in both cases here but it is seen in the image to be slightly different, with the "d" and "w" run together in a ligature used in older fonts that Unicode has not yet adopted.
- A similar difference can also be seen in ch 3, where गुह्य (guhya) in Unicode editable text cannot have the letters "h" and "y" run together as they do in the image.
- And the image confirms the omission of a word in OW's version in ch 9.
And it raises a question about the Hind page count of 136. That edition was already thought to be very short. Seeing that it purports to have all ten chapters, they may be severely abridged. (And those ten chapters apparently do not even come up to that 136, look at their average length!) -- doofus-9 23:47, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Dates of series which are in current Timeline are confirmed by Jagdish (21-25 Dec 1970, morn and even. talk each day). He also adds "talk & meditation".--DhyanAntar 16:00, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
