Talk:Osho Timeline 1985
poison trail..
- [1] Osho has to sleep on a filthy matress laced with radioactive material.
Kristian Dahl-Madsen, a Danish sannyasin and nuclear engineering expert with an M.S. degree from the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm, Sweden, described for me how radioactivity works.
"A normally sensitive person can feel if he is being given a substantial dose of induced radioactivity. However, this sensitivity can be avoided by either creating a stress situation or by making sure that the subject is cold and, therefore, insensitive. This could explain why Osho was not given a blanket in November. He would not receive a pillow because they would want to get his head as close as possible to the source of radiation. Apparently, they wanted to destroy his mental abilities, faculties of speech and his immune system." (Max Brecher, A Passage to America)
- [2] Osho has to eat bread soaked with the heavy metal Thallium.
Soluble thallium salts (many of which are nearly tasteless) are highly toxic in quantity, and were historically used in rat poisons and insecticides. Use of these compounds has been restricted or banned in many countries, because of their nonselective toxicity. Notably, thallium poisoning results in hair loss. Because of its historic popularity as a murder weapon, thallium has gained notoriety as "the poisoner's poison" and "inheritance powder" (alongside arsenic).
--Rudra (talk) 05:49, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
this is a nice dig from the archives of the german parliament.
they issued a decree banning Osho from Germany before he even left the ranch.
- 12. Abgeordneter
- Dr. Meyer zu Bentrup (CDU/CSU)
- Wie beurteilt die Bundesregierung die rechtlichen Möglichkeiten, die in der Öffentlichkeit erhobene Forderung nach einer Verweigerung der Einreise des Sektenführers Bhagwan in die Bundesrepublik Deutschland durchzusetzen?
- Antwort des Staatssekretärs Neusel vom 14. Oktober 1985
- Die Bundesregierung hat veranlaßt, daß dem Sektenführer Rajneesh, Chandra Mohan, genannt Bhagwan, kein Sichtvermerk für die Bundesrepublik Deutschland erteilt wird, weil seine Anwesenheit im Bundesgebiet Belange der Bundesrepublik Deutschland beeinträchtigen würde (vgl. § 2 Abs. 1 Satz 2 des Ausländergesetzes). Bei einem Versuch der Einreise ohne Sichtvermerk ist er zurückzuweisen.
--Rudra (talk) 18:47, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Listings for fourteen Hindi "discourses" from Phir Amrit Ki Bund Padi (फिर अमृत की बूंद पड़ी) and Phir Patto Ki Panjeba Baji (फिर पत्तो की पांजेबा बजी) were removed, as they have been revealed to be translations from English talks (Last Testaments). -- doofus-9 18:00, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
The Last Testament (Vol 5) #12 was dated 23 December 1985, no doubt because that is what the CD-ROM says. The CD-ROM also says Archive code = 8512270, and that seems more like it, because 1) the order of the lecture-numbers and 2) the date on the remastered audio tapes. So I corrected the date.
(By the way: that audio tape -and all presently circulating MP3s- contains the wrong text, namely that of Light on the Path #2. Which is of an interview on the same date but PM.) --Sugit (talk) 19:01, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
So I see that Rudra has made a template for adding "celebrations" to the timeline, great (21 Mar and 6 Jul).
As for this idea to call that "Satsang", that also seems a good idea to me, as in "silent meeting with the master". But just to be sure: what, again, is the difference between "satsang", "darshan" and "celebration" ? Is it silent/Osho speaks? Is it morning/evening? I believe we had an earlier discussion, where doofus said something relevant on this.
Please note as examples, there is a 1985-07-06 Master's Day Satsang ~ The Benediction of Now, and there also is a 1985-07-06 Master's Day Darshan.
Also note, some music/celebration tapes were explicitly called like this: 1981-12-11 Golden Birthday Celebration, so not satsang or darshan (maybe this is the only example of this).
And also to be explicit: we will only mention events where it is at least likely that Osho was present, right?
--Sugit (talk) 16:14, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
right Sugit. this timetable is purely about the whereabouts of Osho, NOT what we were doing at the time, eg celebrating ;)
re "Satsang" i use that term for Osho being silent in public, "Darshan" for talking to people in a relatively small setting, unlike big "Discourses" where he does not talk to people as such but about stuff. and he certainly does NOT do "Celebration" -- that is his permanent state of being. so it seems more that the people producing the tape just wanted to emphasise the fact that it was a big party, although technically it was "just" a Satsang. and i have absolutely no idea what a "Master's Day Darshan" is supposed to be. --Rudra (talk) 14:06, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
Press Conference ~ 04 and The Last Testament (Vol 3) ~ 3 both have ArchiveCode=8509245. Which was first? I bet on Press Conference ~ 04, as that has an explicit introduction by Sheela and Osho. --Sugit (talk) 18:28, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
you lost the bet ;) Osho answers your question in TLT3.3 : Q: WHAT DO YOU DO DURING AN AVERAGE DAY FROM THE TIME YOU GET UP TILL THE TIME YOU GO TO SLEEP.
A: It is completely busy without business. Six o'clock in the morning I wake up. Two hours in my bathroom and swimming pool, which I have always loved. Then my breakfast, and I go to the meeting of the commune, my everyday discourse. By eleven I am back. I take my lunch, go to sleep for two hours. Then for one and half hour I go driving in the mountains. That is the only time that I have for myself. Back again; two hours to the bathroom and the swimming pool. Then I take my supper. And straight from the supper table I am here for any interview. Sometimes there is one interview, sometimes two, sometimes three. Now today your interview is one hour; then 8:30 there is a big press conference that will last at least two hours. Then one hour for my secretary, for day-to-day problems about the commune. Nearbaout twelve I go to sleep. And the day goes so fast... --Rudra (talk) 05:24, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
