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Ha! That didn't take long. In fact, this makes the mysterious middle part, "to Kapil-Kusum", clearer too. Dhanyavaad! (Possibly he meant [[Ma Anand Urmila]]?) -- doofus-9 18:57, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
Ha! That didn't take long. In fact, this makes the mysterious middle part, "to Kapil-Kusum", clearer too. Dhanyavaad! (Possibly he meant [[Ma Anand Urmila]]?) -- doofus-9 18:57, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
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Now the TOC has showed up-- doofus-9 08:02, 18 October 2018 (UTC):
Now the TOC has showed up-- doofus-9 08:02, 18 October 2018 (UTC):
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:26. संकल्प से हिमालय भी झुक जाता है
:26. संकल्प से हिमालय भी झुक जाता है
:27. जीवन नृत्य है
:27. जीवन नृत्य है
===The Move===
Prior to now there has been some unclarity concerning the title of this book; specifically, it was thought that there were two books using the same title. This book of letters was designated ''[[Prem Ke Swar (प्रेम के स्वर) (2)]]'' and the presumed other ''[[Prem Ke Swar (प्रेम के स्वर)]]''. In the Notes for the other, it was said, "There are two new (previously unlisted) Hindi books with this title, a [[Prem Ke Swar (प्रेम के स्वर) (2)|book of letters]] and this one, said to be 'written' by [[Ma Anand Urmila]]. 'Written' is presumably in the same sense that she is the writer of ''[[Shanti Ki Khoj (शांति की खोज)]]'', ie she is transcribing from memory what Osho has said. In ''Shanti Ki Khoj'', her reportage was validated by Osho; the same standard is presumed here. In fact the cover says nothing about her, with the author being indicated as Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh".
In fact, the supposed cover, pub info and contents pages for that (non-existent) book were the same as this book, same pub date, even the same obscure printer in Varanasi, so it is no wonder that the author was indicated as Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh. I have searched the net today for any evidence that could justify this two-book idea and was unable to find any, so the other will be retired and this book moved to take its rightful place. -- doofus-9 05:59, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Revision as of 05:59, 21 October 2018

On the title page opposite the pub info (image right, click to enlarge), there is a mysterious description of the book -- भगवान् श्री द्वारा कपिल-कुसुम को लिखे गये २७ पत्रों का संकलन -- which indicates that there are only 27 letters, not 68. Will inquire. -- doofus-9 17:05, 24 September 2018 (UTC)


Shailendra throws some light:

"Prem Ke Swar - was originally a small booklet of 27 letters only, written to Kapil & Kusum. Now the plan is to add all the unpublished letters in upcoming edition. First 27 letters are written to Kapil and Kusum, Rest (28-68) are written to Ma Yoga Sohan, Ma Prem Urmila, Shree Deriya Ji and other seekers."--DhyanAntar 17:37, 24 September 2018 (UTC)


Ha! That didn't take long. In fact, this makes the mysterious middle part, "to Kapil-Kusum", clearer too. Dhanyavaad! (Possibly he meant Ma Anand Urmila?) -- doofus-9 18:57, 24 September 2018 (UTC)


Now the TOC has showed up-- doofus-9 08:02, 18 October 2018 (UTC):

अंतर्वस्तु (TOC)
1. हृदय में परमात्मा की गहरी प्यास
2. प्रेम असम्भव को भी सम्भव बना देता है
3. तुम दोनों को मेरा बहुत-सारा काम करना है
4. गीत की कड़ियाँ सुनाई पड़ती हैं
5. उसके प्रेम का सागर अनन्त है
6. मौन की भी अपनी भाषा है
7. बेशर्त प्रेम ही तो उसे पाने की शर्त है
8. मैं ठहरा अग्रही--इसलिए याद कर रहा हूँ
9. शब्द से मुक्ति ही सत्य है
10. तैरना नहीं है, बस बहना है
11. तू प्यास ही बनती जा रही है
12. प्रतीक्षा ही करता रहा
13. उसकी करुणा की वर्षा तो होगी ही
14. इधर मैं मिटा, उधर वह हुआ
15. जिन खोजा तिन पाइयां
16. पदार्थ में परमात्मा मिलता है
17. आकार ही निराकार हो जाता है
18. खाली हो, रिक्त हो, शून्य बन
19. प्रभु की यात्रा सीढ़ियों की नहीं है
20. ध्यान जारी रखना
21. संसार है निर्वाण
22. शब्द सत्यों के धोखे बन जाते हैं
23. तेरा सारा अस्तित्व ही सागर में है
24. वही है, वही है-सब ओर वही है
25. स्वनिर्मित कारागृह में कैद आदमी
26. संकल्प से हिमालय भी झुक जाता है
27. जीवन नृत्य है


The Move

Prior to now there has been some unclarity concerning the title of this book; specifically, it was thought that there were two books using the same title. This book of letters was designated Prem Ke Swar (प्रेम के स्वर) (2) and the presumed other Prem Ke Swar (प्रेम के स्वर). In the Notes for the other, it was said, "There are two new (previously unlisted) Hindi books with this title, a book of letters and this one, said to be 'written' by Ma Anand Urmila. 'Written' is presumably in the same sense that she is the writer of Shanti Ki Khoj (शांति की खोज), ie she is transcribing from memory what Osho has said. In Shanti Ki Khoj, her reportage was validated by Osho; the same standard is presumed here. In fact the cover says nothing about her, with the author being indicated as Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh".

In fact, the supposed cover, pub info and contents pages for that (non-existent) book were the same as this book, same pub date, even the same obscure printer in Varanasi, so it is no wonder that the author was indicated as Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh. I have searched the net today for any evidence that could justify this two-book idea and was unable to find any, so the other will be retired and this book moved to take its rightful place. -- doofus-9 05:59, 21 October 2018 (UTC)