Talk:Probleski zolotogo detstva (Проблески золотого детства)
Two major online stores indicate that this is the first volume of the book "Проблески золотого детства. Подлинная биография". Also the same indicates one of the assistants of Sw Veet Prayas in a list of books Nirvana wich I found on oshoworld.ru (unfortunately, now the list is unavaible). I counldn't find second volume of this edition. But I can assume that there should be only one book in a single volume because the book is completely translated and consists of 50 chapters with a appendix.--DhyanAntar 12:18, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
you can always find it again in the webarchive.
or just go to https://oshoworld.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4877 but that also does not show a second book.
also, this list: http://rumagic.com/ru_zar/religion/gritsanov/0/j16.html doesn't show a second part either and the list looks quite comprehensive.
--Rudra (talk) 20:39, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
about the ISBN number problem. the only valid ISBN can be 5-7135-0046-2
see http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/20168105/
but if you do a google search for the stem "5-7135-0046-" you get loads of rubbish ISBNs. some idiot must have started his private ISBN number scheme in Russia.
--Rudra (talk) 21:32, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
About using his private scheme - I don't think so. Some editions wich I found they had incorrect publisher information. I always check this information in reliable sources: Bookchamber ([1]), NLR - National library of Russia in St. Petersburg ([2]) and RSL - Russian state library ([3]).
Usually I'm searching a whole ISBN, not any stem, or just the title of the book in google search. Then I sift and compare acquired informations in the above sources. However it takes a lot of time.
About the list - I refreshed a link [4]. It is from book by А.А. Грицанов [5].
Here it is [6]!!! I found lost banned pade with another list of books by Nirvana. Thank you very much, Rudra. I completely forgot about webarchiv. Also this page has responses to the questions by [Sw Veet Prayas].
For Probleski zolotogo detstva (Проблески золотого детства) there real is second volume named "Подлинная биография Шри Раджниша. Мгновения вечности", which has a part of first volume.--DhyanAntar 08:56, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
re ISBN
there are some Russian books with numbers in them that start with "5-7135-0046-", but these numbers are **NOT** ISBN numbers. read about ISBN here.
either the publisher simply made a mistake when typesetting the book or they just invented the number because they were too lazy to go through an official ISBN registrar.
when i look at all the google results, most have no publisher listed and they are almost all Osho books. welcome to the Wild West of the Russian Osho book scene.
--Rudra (talk) 19:40, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
This ISBN is real, on that mention is mentioned, fro example, the Russian National Library, look at [7]. Also there is mentioned a publisher mentioned ИПА "Три Л".
There is others sources wich is mentioned on a publisher Nirvana, but all they are not reliabe and dubious. I can assume that Veet Prayas heads the works on publishing 1998 edition, but for some reason it published by "Три Л". If I will know that this edition is in list of published books by Nirvana, then it will need to redirect to Nirvana.
Oh, yeah, as you are right say, I play "on the Wild West of the Russian Osho book scene" :-) Here are much controversial informations, so they needs to sift and compare. A little later I will recheck the publication with two major libraries, while only in the electronic catalog. I hope librarians fine (exact) folks:) --DhyanAntar 07:28, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
the Russian Nat Library search is very interesting. we can only hope that the librarians actually have the book and actually look inside to see what ISBN number is printed in it.
how the hell can they return multiple books for a single ISBN number and not ring a thousand alarm bells? are they asleep between the shelves ??--Rudra (talk) 06:33, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
