Talk:Rom Rom Ras Peejiye (रोम रोम रस पीजिए)

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The two sources for the TOC are displayed for comparison below. Notes after the table address differences and changes (underlined):

osho.com's audio TOC: 2000 Rebel TOC:
1. रोम रोम रस पीजिए
2. अज्ञान का बोध
3. बच्चों को विश्वास नहीं जिज्ञासा सिखाएं
4. झूठे धर्मों की विदाई, सच्चे धर्म का जन्म
5. धर्म है आत्मस्मरण
6. आध्यात्मिक विकास में चरिमत्र का स्थान
7. दूसरे पर श्रद्धा आत्म-अश्रद्धा की घोषणा है
8. आदमी की एकमात्र कमजोरी : अहंकार
9. मन के मंदिर में ध्यान का दीया
1. रोम रोम रस पीजिए
2. अज्ञान का बोध
3. बच्चों को विश्वास नहीं, जिज्ञासा सिखाएं
4. झूठे धर्मों की विदाई—सच्चे धर्म का जन्म
5. धर्म है आत्म-स्मरण
6. आध्यात्मिक विकास में चरित्र का स्थान
7. दूसरे पर श्रद्धा आत्म-अश्रद्धा की घोषणा है
8. आदमी की एकमात्र कमजोरी—अहंकार
9. मन के मंदिर में ध्यान का दीया

Notes:

1. This chapter's title is also the book's title. It has finally served to alert yr editor to update the book's title in the wiki. As an interesting side-note, even in the current osho.com version, there is ambiguity. The chapter title is as above, as is the book's title, but the book title is also transliterated there as Peejiye, not Peejie.
Above written a few days earlier, when the title here in the wiki was changed to Peejie (from Pijiye). The move today (from Peejie to Peejiye) is not based on "correctness" but on findability. Peejie remains correct, as a transliteration of पीजिए, but search engines were not finding the book, since the only published form known is this 2000 edition, plus the audio, for both of which OIF uses "Peejiye". This is reinforced by the "Peejiye" even in the hard copy in the copyright claim on the pub info page (see image). 07:35, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
3. The wiki earlier had विस्वास instead of विश्वास. As its source was supposedly the osho.com audio list, and that list currently reads correctly, and agrees with the 2000 Rebel cover, the source of "विस्वास" is somewhat mysterious. It has been corrected.
6. Formerly in the wiki, the first underlined word was represented as चरित्रमात्र. Currently in osho.com, it is चरिमत्र. It seems that neither of these is correct but should be the चरित्र that is in the contents image. Also formerly in the wiki, the last word of ch 6's title was a second विकास. This came from somebody's Bad Idea Place. It is not known whose, but it has been corrected to स्थान, the word in both 2000 Rebel and o.com.
And there are punctuation differences in ch 3, 4, 5 and 8. They have been rendered as found, with no attempt to evaluate correctness.

Earlier notes continue below -- doofus-9 06:11, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


The Hindi blurb itself names Shardagram as the place for this camp. Neeten's Osho Source Book Appendix section) mentions Shardagram only once, as a camp on these dates (with nine talks), so putting them together seems appropriate. Also somewhat soundly inferential is the answer to the question of where exactly IS Shardagram? As it happens, the only significant mentions of Shardagram on the net have to do with this school in seaside Gujarat. So there ya go. Presumptions have been made. -- doofus-9 (talk) 19:50, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


Above is mention of "a camp on these dates". But the main page has no dates. An omission? --Sugit (talk) 17:07, 18 August 2015 (UTC)


That looks like an "oops". Dates were located in Neeten's Appendix, and have been mentioned in Hindi titles with incomplete info, Apr 13-16 1967. Should have gone on the main page, will fix that up. -- doofus-9 (talk) 22:33, 18 August 2015 (UTC)


Copyrights of OMI edition confirmes year 1967 of talks.--DhyanAntar 07:53, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


14-16 Apr confirmed by Manuscripts ~ Reports Timeline Extraction. So first talk could happened on day before in evening.

Hindi series of talks with dates (source document): "Sharda Gram Shivir, 9 talks, 13-16.04.67"--DhyanAntar 13:51, 14 June 2020 (UTC)


Dates of each talk are confirmed by tape labels. Only difference with current Timeline data is last talk, which according to the label: 16 Apr 1967 pm. It looks unlikely as in the end of 6th talk Osho indicates that he will answer to questions in the night and tomorrow afternoon.--DhyanAntar 04:30, 23 August 2022 (UTC)


Talk #3 seems missing, as text and audio under name Rom Rom Ras Peejiye #3 is in fact Mati Kahai Kumhar Sun #3, see Talk:Mati Kahai Kumhar Sun (माटी कहै कुम्हार सूं). Although tape label (remastering tape) of Rom Rom Ras Peejiye #3 has info: 14 Apr 1967 afternoon, Shardagram, India. Here are two possibilities as i see: the cassette of Rom Rom #3 is correct and was confused while digitizing process (with Mati #3), or the cassette of 3rd talk (of Rom) is missing and inside tape box the cassette from Mati #3.--DhyanAntar 03:20, 25 August 2022 (UTC)