Talk:Suspect ISBN numbers

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also, can you please italicise the book titles.--Rudra (talk) 23:06, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

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these numbers have of course never been issued by the Russian Book Chamber which is the ISBN authority in Russia to more than one book.

see http://www.bookchamber.ru

is it possibele to search for ISBN numbers there ? that way we could find out who the number 5-7135-0046-2 was originally issued to, provided it was actually issued. --Rudra (talk) 00:39, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

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searching the Global Register of Publishers shows this:

Publisher: Kniga

Country: Russian Federation

Agency Name: Russia

ISBN Prefix: 978-5-7135-

Status: ACTIVE

Address: Chelyabinsk ul. Posty`sheva, 2

Admin Contact Name: V.M. Afanasovich

Admin Phone: 7-(351) 264-98-48

Admin Fax: 7-(351) 264-98-48

so any other publisher using that prefix is suspect.--Rudra (talk) 00:39, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

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searching the Kniga catalog shows that the ISBN number 5-7135-0046-2 is for Сборник буддийских молитв на каждый день--Rudra (talk) 02:03, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

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hmmm, looks like Nirvana is only involved in one of the suspect ISBNs (5-7135-0046-9)

Nirvana's details in the Global Registry are:

Publisher: Soldatov Aleksandr Valentinovich

Country: Russian Federation

Agency Name: Russia

ISBN Prefix: 978-5-94726

Status: ACTIVE

Address: Moscow ul. Ae`rodromnaya, d. 12, korp. 1, kv. 16

Admin Contact Name: A.V. Soldatov

Admin Phone: 7-(495) 492-57-92

Admin Email: osho@inbox.ru.

i did send Prayas an email to this address, but had no response.

i am starting to suspect that the problem we see is two fold:

• some publishers are using fake numbers for god knows what insane reason
• and the ISBN numbers we see in online shops are there due to some serious database corruptions in the shop catalogs

--Rudra (talk) 02:03, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

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forgot to mention - let's just list Osho books with suspect numbers here. there might be thousands of fake ISBNs in the Russian book scene, but we don't have to deal with them all. ;) --Rudra (talk) 16:17, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

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Hurray! :-)

Do you suggest this page to use for reference and do not search specifically the root of the ISBN (like "5-7135-0046-")? I have to finish the search "5-7135-0046-" --DhyanAntar 16:37, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

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sorry, i don't understand the question. what i'm trying to say is, lets list Osho books here when they are involved with a suspect number. --Rudra (talk) 02:27, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

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I want to ask we will not search specifically ISBN numbers in them that start with "5-7135-0046-" (for, example)? We will list any suspect ISBN numbers only inthe case when they identified themselves, won't we?--DhyanAntar 07:01, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

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ah yes, on this page we will collect all suspect numbers from any language.--Rudra (talk) 15 February 2017 (UTC)

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I couldn't find 5-7390-0069-X number for two last points. Where did you find them?

For "Избранные сочинения: В 3 т. Пер. с англ. Т. 1 : Марсианские хроники" which you indicated it have a little different ISBN number - 5-7390-0069-6 (sourches RSL and NLR accordingly):

• Избранные сочинения : Пер. с англ. / Рэй Брэдбери. - М. : Ред.-произв. агентство "Олимп", 1992-. - 22 см. Т. 1: Марсианские хроники; 451%ж по Фаренгейту. - М. : Ред.-произв. агентство "Олимп", 1992. - 318,[2] с.; ISBN 5-7390-0069-6 (В пер.) : Б. ц.

• Избранные сочинения : В 3 т. : Пер. с англ. / Рэй Брэдбери. Т. 1: Марсианские хроники; 451° по Фаренгейту. - , 1992. - 318, [2] с. . - 100000 экз. - ISBN 5-7390-0069-6.--DhyanAntar 14:22, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

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