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== trademarks ==
How are the non-colored registered trademarks not active anymore?  What is the difference between red and pink?  --[[User:Sugit|Sugit]] ([[User talk:Sugit|talk]]) 06:36, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
How are the non-colored registered trademarks not active anymore?  What is the difference between red and pink?  --[[User:Sugit|Sugit]] ([[User talk:Sugit|talk]]) 06:36, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
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==Yoga as a sponteneous happening==
== copyright ==
 
(... continued from [[Talk:Yoga As a Spontaneous Happening]])


The discussion was about making scans of the book pages available to the public on the web site....


It most certainly would not fall under fair use to copy an entire book.  
It most certainly would not fall under fair use to copy an entire book.  
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The alleged copyright owner will cite in court the effect this will have upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The alleged copyright owner will cite in court the effect this will have upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
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In other words, their chance of selling a printed edition will diminish if the book is freely available in the wiki. Case closed.--[[User:Rudra|Rudra]] ([[User talk:Rudra|talk]]) 00:42, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
In other words, their chance of selling a printed edition will diminish if the book is freely available in the wiki. Case closed.--[[User:Rudra|Rudra]] ([[User talk:Rudra|talk]]) 00:42, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
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The case is not entirely closed just yet, but possibly still adjar. If I made an attempt to contact the copyright owner and got permission from them, it would not at all be a violation of copyright law. However if they decided to say no, the possible status of adjar would be closed until the copyright expired in another 35+ years. Would it be worth pursuing this effort for our own edification? Does anyone know if the copyright holder is still around or is the copyright orphaned?  [[User:Swamisitar|Swamisitar]] ([[User talk:Swamisitar|talk]]) 02:18, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 
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The case is not entirely closed just yet, but possibly still adjar. If I made an attempt to contact the copyright owner and got permission from them, it would not at all be a violation of copyright law. However if they decided to say no, the possible status of adjar would be closed until the copyright expired in another 35+ years. Would it be worth pursuing this effort for our own edification? Does anyone know if the copyright holder is still around or is the copyright orphaned?  [[User:Swamisitar|Swamisitar]] ([[User talk:Swamisitar|talk]]) 05:35, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
to contact the copyright owner, you would first need to know who that is. ever since its inception, OIF claims to be the copyright owner, but has utterly failed to prove it. That would leave Osho's family as the rightful heirs to Osho's estate which of course includes the copyright of his spoken and written words. But i have not heard anyone of them claim any copyright.
 
so from my point of view, there is no copyright holder we could possibly contact and until this whole mess is once and for all settled in the courts, our hands are tied. i will not ask OIF for permission, cause they are not the copyright owners, but if we publish Osho's books they will HAVE to drag us to court, not just to defend their unproven claims, but also because they probably have sold exclusive printing rights to a lot of Osho's books claiming to have the right to do that and the publishers would be very unhappy if OIF would let us print these books.
 
and fyi copyright in most countries is now 70 years after the writer's death.
--[[User:Rudra|Rudra]] ([[User talk:Rudra|talk]]) 05:48, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

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trademarks

How are the non-colored registered trademarks not active anymore? What is the difference between red and pink? --Sugit (talk) 06:36, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


there are 3 types

active (poison purple)
opposed and cancelled (green/blue)
expired (white)

green are major opposition/court cases and blue are those that got cancelled due to losing the major case, kind of collateral damage ;)

--Rudra (talk) 21:02, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


copyright

(... continued from Talk:Yoga As a Spontaneous Happening)


It most certainly would not fall under fair use to copy an entire book. The alleged copyright owner will cite in court the effect this will have upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work. In other words, their chance of selling a printed edition will diminish if the book is freely available in the wiki. Case closed.--Rudra (talk) 00:42, 2 November 2015 (UTC)


The case is not entirely closed just yet, but possibly still adjar. If I made an attempt to contact the copyright owner and got permission from them, it would not at all be a violation of copyright law. However if they decided to say no, the possible status of adjar would be closed until the copyright expired in another 35+ years. Would it be worth pursuing this effort for our own edification? Does anyone know if the copyright holder is still around or is the copyright orphaned? Swamisitar (talk) 02:18, 2 November 2015 (UTC)


to contact the copyright owner, you would first need to know who that is. ever since its inception, OIF claims to be the copyright owner, but has utterly failed to prove it. That would leave Osho's family as the rightful heirs to Osho's estate which of course includes the copyright of his spoken and written words. But i have not heard anyone of them claim any copyright.

so from my point of view, there is no copyright holder we could possibly contact and until this whole mess is once and for all settled in the courts, our hands are tied. i will not ask OIF for permission, cause they are not the copyright owners, but if we publish Osho's books they will HAVE to drag us to court, not just to defend their unproven claims, but also because they probably have sold exclusive printing rights to a lot of Osho's books claiming to have the right to do that and the publishers would be very unhappy if OIF would let us print these books.

and fyi copyright in most countries is now 70 years after the writer's death. --Rudra (talk) 05:48, 2 November 2015 (UTC)