The Last Testament (Vol 1) ~ 25

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event type interview
date & time 11 Aug 1985 pm
location Jesus Grove, Rajneeshpuram
language English
audio Available, duration 2h 19min. Quality: good.
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video Available, duration 2h 42min. Quality: good, but sometimes audio-noise (during questions?). Between part 1 and 2 some words missing.
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shorttitle LAST125
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Interview. Announcements by Ma Anand Sheela : Helmut Werb, freelance journalist for (inaudible).
CD-ROM on this chapter: Interviews with Helmut Werb, photojournalist with: Rock Star, Italy; Music Express, Germany, Holland; O'KEG, Sweden; Music Man, Austria; FI, England; Concrete, Mexico.
Question 1
I'm working for twelve different magazines in Europe and Australia. I asked every single magazine to submit one question, which I then relay to you. So some of the questions will be directly from the magazines; roughly one-third are my own questions. Some of the questions are very simple, some of them will be controversial...
Several newspapers in New York, United States, reported that the number of Rajneeshees worldwide are declining, and that you're slowly running out of resources. Now after several years of silence you have started talking again, you started giving interviews, you started to talk with the disciples. Is this part of a membership drive, or is it just your wish to communicate?
Question 2
In one of the interviews, you mentioned that you want to take over the world. I think it was a TV station here in the United States.
Question 3
That will be in the end the only way to survive?
Question 4
You identify yourself, however, as a religious leader....
Question 5
What are you, then?
Question 6
But you are Bhagwan, you are the enlightened one. Are you perfect?
Question 7
A lot of ex-sannyasins left you disappointed -- maybe in that process when you decided not to talk any more -- and some felt and voiced their concern publicly that you exploit your followers to sustain an extravagant lifestyle. Your former Italian cook, Deeksha, called you a liar in the Oregonian; your former body guard Shivamurti said you are dishonest -- I think it was in the Oregonian, as well. How do you feel about these people personally? What would you say to them?
Question 8
How far would you go to wake somebody up?
Question 9
Well, she told the Oregonian reporters that she has to hide from your followers now.
Question 10
Do they know that?
Question 11
Let me go into the next question, if I may.
The Immigration service of the United states tries desperately to deport you. What would happen to you and what would happen to Rajneeshpuram if you would have to go?
Question 12
But you have said during the press conference several weeks ago that you would go to Australia.
Question 13
But it would make difference to Rajneeshpuram, wouldn't it?
Question 14
What problems would you create, for example?
Question 15
The prince of Hanover was one of your favorite sannyasins. He was very ill, and there is a rumor that you asked to cut the oxygen to shorten his suffering. How do you feel about helping people to die in individual cases?
Question 16
How do you spend your day?
Question 17
How important is sex for you?
Question 18
You say that Rajneeshee is the only religion who can really free the people. Indian officials said two years ago according to several newspapers here that your organization does not resemble a religion. Does this hurt you personally, or do you feel any remorse about this?
Question 19
You said once that your religion will die with you. Will you not ask anybody to continue for you -- perhaps Sheela, perhaps another person, Laxmi, or an organization for you?
Question 20
In an interview with an American newspaper, your former ranch manager Bob Harvey, said that he restored several mines on your request on the grounds of the Ranch -- the Ouinns mine, for example. What is in these mines? And is it correct what sannyasin Dhyan John said that you have built a Kali temple?
Question 21
Swami Prem Leeladhar was introduced in the Rajneesh Times as a plastic surgeon who specializes in sex changes. Do you perform sex changes on the Ranch here?
Question 22
There are consistent rumors that there is a huge arms cache in Rajneeshpuram. I haven't really seen such a peaceful place before -- I mean people hugging each other on the street, smiling at each other, waving at each other -- why would you need so many weapons?
Question 23
You declared death as the biggest orgasm of all times once. Do you want to lead your disciples into this super orgasm, or do you fear another Jonestown among them?
Question 24
If I might interrupt you, if I understand you correctly that if separation between body and soul is such a tremendous experience, wouldn't it be desirable to achieve that?
Question 25
You said that everybody who will die in a twenty-four miles radius of Rajneeshpuram will automatically enlightened. Why is that so?
Question 26
Your personal assistant and secretary, Sheela, has made tremendous waves here and in Australia recently on television and press interviews and in those waves created, you've got some really bad press -- the organization, you did. Did Sheela act under your instructions or do you feel sometimes that she's gone maybe sometimes too far?
Question 27
But then it would be easy that all you have to do is you have to sit down, have a press conference, and tell everybody who wants to hear that there are human sacrifices on the Ranch, there are, whatever horror stories you can cook up.
Question 28
I would like to have an exclusive on that.
Question 29
Do you create then the bad news to wake up your disciples, or do you create the bad news....?
Question 30
Quoted as saying "When this will be all over, I will buy myself a dark suit, go to the bar, and buy a cigar." Will you go and buy yourself a dark suit?


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