The Last Testament (Vol 2) ~ 20
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| event type | interview |
| date & time | 10 Sep 1985 pm |
| location | Jesus Grove, Rajneeshpuram |
| language | English |
| audio | Available, duration 1h 35min. Quality: good. Live music after the interview. |
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| video | Available, duration 1h 37min. Quality: good. |
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| online text | find the PDF of this discourse |
| shorttitle | LAST220 |
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- synopsis
- Interview. Announcements by Ma Prem Savita : Hugh Schmidt from the West Australian (inaudible)
- CD-ROM on this chapter: Interview with Hugh Schmidt, The Melbourne Herald Group, Melbourne, Australia.
- Question 1
- Is your retinue of sannyasins throughout the world growing in number or is it declining?
- Question 2
- Can you estimate how many you might have worldwide?
- Question 3
- How many say ten years ago would you think? Or when you left India how many do you think you had?
- Question 4
- And what do you think brings people to places like Rajneeshpuram? Do you think it's for the good life or do you think to find themselves, to find their inner selves or is it a combination of reasons that brings people here to live?
- Question 5
- In Western Australia there is quite a strong and healthy commune in fremantle, and they were trying to get established in Pemberton which caused quite a lot of concern amongst the local population. The Pemberton council has refused to issue them a permit -- does that worry you at all?
- Question 6
- You'll be fighting?
- Question 7
- So you'll be fighting it legally in...?
- Question 8
- You said some time ago that you'd like to visit Australia, particularly West....
- Do you think you'll still go down there?
- Question 9
- Do you think the local townspeople in the small town of Pemberton should be worried about the Rajneeshees?
- Question 10
- Do you think you have a paradise on earth (inaaudible).
- Question 11
- Everyone seems to be smiling and happy.
- Question 12
- Have you ever had to ask any, anyone to leave Rajneeshpuram?
- Question 13
- You have a fairly active police force here -- do they get much work to do?
- Question 14
- How is your health these days, Bhagwan?
- Question 15
- Do you have to take medication?
- Question 16
- Are you a vegetarian?
- Question 17
- Bhagwan, why did you break your silence which lasted nearly three years?
- Question 18
- Well, your words tonight are going to be read by at least four million people, if they buy the paper.
- Question 19
- Getting onto another subject which I know is not taboo here....
- Question 20
- I believe for at least a year you have been aware of the danger of the AIDS problem and you have instilled careful precautions amongst your sannyasins -- is that correct?
- Question 21
- For how long have you been aware of this danger?
- Question 22
- Do you think it could destroy mankind or....?
- Question 23
- A newspaper I saw in Vancouver two days ago has a Rajneeshpuram dateline and it says, "AIDS has struck the Rajneeshees: Two followers of guru Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh have contracted the usual, usually fatal disease." Is it true?
- Question 24
- Are these two people related? Or are they living together now.
- Question 25
- So the sannyasins who live here are taught and encouraged to take every precaution -- they don't allow kissing or....?
- Question 26
- So you practice zero birth growth?
- Question 27
- But surely if the outside world adopted the same policy, it wouldn't take long for the third world countries, who would never practice zero birth control, to take over the world maybe.
- Question 28
- Are you politically-minded, Bhagwan?
- Question 29
- What do you think of President Reagan?
- Question 30
- You're a leader of a big group of people; people look up to you -- what have you got that President Reagan hasn't got?
- Question 31
- Are you having a birthday soon aren't you? Are you having a big celebration for your birthday?
- Question 32
- Are you really enjoying it?
- Question 33
- Do you spend much time of your day reading or writing?
- Question 34
- Do you read newspapers?
- Question 35
- Do you rise early in the morning or do you just get up when you feel like it?
- Question 36
- Do you meditate for many hours a day?
- Question 37
- Do you ever visit the public entertainment in Rajneeshpuram?
- Question 38
- I believe you did make a quick visit to the disco one night.
- Question 39
- But you don't mind your sannyasins enjoying themselves at these....?
- Question 40
- Do you deny yourself pleasures of the flesh?
- Question 41
- Do you enjoy a drink of alcohol? -- beer or wine.
- Question 42
- But you like your sannyasins to be moderate in um....
- Question 43
- What happens when the Bhagwan shuffles off this mortal coil? Will the Rajneeshees just fade away or do you think the movement will stay forever?
- Question 44
- You need a psychoanalyst here?
- Question 45
- Those books are written from your talks?
- Question 46
- Just like this might be used?
- Question 47
- Do you ever play back what you have said or do you, once you've said it, just forget about it?
- Question 48
- What do you think of material things? I've read various reports about you having seventy Rolls Royces and I notice you have a beautiful diamond watch on your hand -- do material things worry you at all or do they concern you?
- Question 49
- Does it keep good time?
- Question 50
- In these days of fear about AIDS, do you think your philosophy of free love is a viable philosophy? Surely the precautions that sannyasins have to take, must take a lot of the enjoyment out of love.
- Question 51
- Yes, I think a lot of world leaders are doing the ostrich and putting their head in the sand and pretending it will go away, or hoping it will go away, but it won't go away.
- Question 52
- Yes. It does sound a bit stupid. Do you condone homosexuality in Rajneeshpuram?
- Question 53
- That's not living for today, though. That's not enjoying life, is it?
- Question 54
- The people in my home state are very worried about the Rajneeshee group and have you any message for them -- can you allay their fears? Can you tell them something that might make them feel happier?
- Question 55
- I've had a look at your farming community here and the way you recycle things and it's very very good.
- Question 56
- I was told that I would see armed guards patrolling the streets -- I haven't seen any since I've been here. Do you still have armed guards?
- Question 57
- Preventive rather than...?
- Question 58
- But they are sannyasins -- the policemen are sannyasins?
- Question 59
- So you take all necessary steps to...?
- Question 60
- Do you think it... One day it might lead to bloodshed?
- Question 61
- Has the governor visited here at all? -- state governor.
- Question 62
- You welcome visitors, don't you?
- Question 63
- Sorry to go back to my home state, but would you like to establish a Rajneeshee community in...?
- Question 64
- So you'll be fighting the legal moves that will be made?
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