The Secret ~ 17
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| event type | discourse |
| date & time | 27 Oct 1978 am |
| location | Buddha Hall, Poona |
| language | English |
| audio | Available, duration 1h 41min. Quality: good. |
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| video | Not available |
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| online text | find the PDF of this discourse |
| shorttitle | SECRET17 |
- notes
- synopsis
- Reader of the sutra: Ma Prem Maneesha.
- The sutra
- There were two men of great renown as teachers of the right path. Ibn Halim relates that he went first to see one of them, whose name was pir Ardeshir of Qazwin.
- He said to pir Ardeshir, "Will you advise me as to what to do and what not to do?"
- The pir said, "Yes, but I will give you such instructions as you will find very hard to carry out, since they will go against your preferences, even if these preferences are sometimes for hardship."
- Ibn Halim spent some months with pir Ardeshir, and found that the teaching was indeed hard for him. Although pir Ardeshir's former disciples were now famed throughout the world as enlightened teachers, he could not stand the changes, the uncertainties and the disciplines placed upon him.
- At length he applied to the pir for permission to leave, and travel to the Tekkia of the second teacher, murshid Amali.
- He asked the murshid, "Would you place upon me burdens which I might find next to intolerable?"
- Amali replied, "I would not place upon you such burdens."
- Ibn Halim asked, "Will you then accept me as a disciple?"
- The murshid answered, "Not until you have asked me why my training would not be so onerous as that of pir Ardeshir."
- Ibn Halim asked, "Why would it not be so onerous?"
- The murshid told him, "Because I would not care for you and your real well-being like Ardeshir cared for you. Therefore you must not now ask me to accept you as a disciple."
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