The Zen Manifesto ~ 07
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| event type | discourse & meditation |
| date & time | 6 Apr 1989 pm |
| location | Gautam the Buddha Auditorium, Pune |
| language | English |
| audio | Available, duration 1h 54min. Quality: good. Osho leading meditation from 1:31:59. Live music after the discourse. |
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| video | Available, duration 1h 54min. Quality: good, but a constant audio-noise. |
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| online text | find the PDF of this discourse |
| shorttitle | ZENMAN07 |
- notes
- synopsis
- Reader of the sutra: Ma Prem Maneesha. Questions are being read by Osho himself.
After discourse Osho leads No-Mind Meditation.
- The sutra
- Gyozan said to Sekishitsu, "Tell me what to believe in and what to rely on?"
- Sekishitsu gestured across the sky above, three times with his hand, and said, "There is no such thing."
- Gyozan asked, "What do you say about reading sutras?"
- Sekishitsu replied, "All the sutras are out of the question. Doing things that are given by others is dualism of mind and matter. And if you are in the dualism of subject and object, various views arise. But this is blind wisdom, so it is not yet the Tao.
- "If others don't give you anything, there is not a single thing. That's why Bodhidharma said, 'Originally, there is not a single thing.'
- You see, when a baby comes out of the womb, does he read sutras or not? At that time, the baby doesn't know whether such a thing as Buddha nature exists or not. As he grows up and learns various views, he appears to the world and says, 'I do well and I understand.' But he doesn't know it is rubbish and delusion.
- Of the sixteen ways or phases of doing, a baby's way is the best. The time of a baby's gurgle is compared to a seeker when he leaves the mind of dividing and choosing. That's why a baby is praised. But if you take this comparison and say, 'The baby is the way,' people of the present days will understand it wrongly."
- Question 1
- I heard you say that the center of our buddhahood is at the 'hara' point inside the body.
- Is there also a sleeping buddha energy in our hearts and in the third eye? Do we all have the same potential of remembering, each one with his or her unique expression of creativity?
- Please comment.
- Question 2
- Though you have infused the sutras with life and humor, for me, Zen remains the stark beauty of the desert, and I long for something else.
- Why can't I drop the idea that my way is not via emptiness, but fullness? I still carry this longing for some kind of union, a melting outwards rather than dissolving into nothingness inside.
- Is this just my refusal to grow up? Am I fooling myself? Are we all to embrace the Zen manifesto no matter what 'type' we feel we are?
- Question 3
- The other night I heard you say there is no reincarnation, no soul, no spirit after death, only pure consciousness, pure silence.
- Is it then so, that part of us, of our own consciousness, is aware of that endless silence, of being part of the whole?
- Does the dewdrop still feel or experience some aliveness inside, when first it melts into the ocean?
- Question 4
- Beloved Osho, Wilhelm Reich says, in his book, 'Listen, little man,' that he found that man reaches out with his life energy when he feels well and loving; that he retracts that energy when he is afraid. Reich says that he found that this life energy -- which he termed "orgone" -- is "found in the atmosphere," outside the body. He says he succeeded in seeing it and devised apparatus which magnified it.
- Is what he observed so?
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