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syn = Reader of the sutras/questions: [[Ma Prem Maneesha]].<br>After discourse Osho leads [[No-Mind Meditation]].
syn = Reader of the sutra: [[Ma Prem Maneesha]]. Questions are being read by Osho himself.<br>After discourse Osho leads [[No-Mind Meditation]].


:A sutra:
:The sutra:
::Beloved Osho,
::When Tenjiku was asked about the incident of Tanka burning the statue, he replied, "When it is cold we gather around the hearth by the fire."
::When Tenjiku was asked about the incident of Tanka burning the statue, he replied, "When it is cold we gather around the hearth by the fire."
::"Was he wrong or not?" persisted the monk.
::"Was he wrong or not?" persisted the monk.
::"When it is hot we sit in a bamboo forest in the valley," said Tenjiku.
::"When it is hot we sit in a bamboo forest in the valley," said Tenjiku.
::The day after the burning of the statue, Tanka Tennen went to see Nan-Yo, who had once been a disciple of Eno and was the emperor's Zen master. When Tanka unrolled his Zazen rug, Nan-Yo said, "There's no need."
::The day after the burning of the statue, Tanka Tennen went to see Nan-yo, who had once been a disciple of Eno and was the emperor's Zen master. When Tanka unrolled his zazen rug, Nan-yo said, "There's no need."
::Tanka took a few steps backward.
::Tanka took a few steps backward.
::Nan-Yo said, "That's right."
::Nan-yo said, "That's right."
::At this, Tanka took a few steps forward.
::At this, Tanka took a few steps forward.
::Nan-Yo said, "That's not right."
::Nan-yo said, "That's not right."
::Tanka walked around Nan-Yo one time and left.
::Tanka walked around Nan-yo one time and left.
::Nan-Yo commented, "The old, golden days are far away, and people are now so lazy. Thirty years from now, it will be difficult to get hold of this fellow."
::Nan-yo commented, "The old, golden days are far away, and people are now so lazy. Thirty years from now, it will be difficult to get hold of this fellow."




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::Would you like to comment?
::Would you like to comment?


:Question 3 from [[Ma Prem Maneesha|Maneesha]]
:Question 3
::Beloved Osho,
::Beloved Osho, D.T. Suzuki describes two different kinds of "seeing" as denoted by two different Chinese characters.
::D.T. Suzuki describes two different kinds of "seeing" as denoted by two different Chinese characters.
::"K'an" consists of a hand and an eye and means "to watch an object as independent of the spectator" -- objective knowledge.
::"K'an" consists of a hand and an eye and means "to watch an object as independent of the spectator" -- objective knowledge.
::"The seen and the seeing are two separate entities."
::"The seen and the seeing are two separate entities."
::On the other hand, the character "Chien" is composed of an eye alone on two outstretched legs, and signifies the pure act of seeing.
::On the other hand, the character "chien" is composed of an eye alone on two outstretched legs, and signifies the pure act of seeing.
::Suzuki considers the difference between these two kinds of seeing as "revolutionary in the history of Zen thought."
::Suzuki considers the difference between these two kinds of seeing as "revolutionary in the history of Zen thought."


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Latest revision as of 19:15, 22 March 2022

event type discourse & meditation
date & time 20 Feb 1989 pm
location Gautam the Buddha Auditorium, Pune
language English
audio Available, duration 3h 37min. Quality: good.
Osho leading meditation from 3:09:55.
Live music after the discourse.
online audio
video Available, duration 3h 39min. Quality: good, but a strong constant audio-noise, video-noise at bottom of screen. Incomplete: missing some 25 words between part 1 and 2 (under revision).
online video
see also
online text find the PDF of this discourse
shorttitle ZENMAN01
notes
synopsis
Reader of the sutra: Ma Prem Maneesha. Questions are being read by Osho himself.
After discourse Osho leads No-Mind Meditation.
The sutra:
When Tenjiku was asked about the incident of Tanka burning the statue, he replied, "When it is cold we gather around the hearth by the fire."
"Was he wrong or not?" persisted the monk.
"When it is hot we sit in a bamboo forest in the valley," said Tenjiku.
The day after the burning of the statue, Tanka Tennen went to see Nan-yo, who had once been a disciple of Eno and was the emperor's Zen master. When Tanka unrolled his zazen rug, Nan-yo said, "There's no need."
Tanka took a few steps backward.
Nan-yo said, "That's right."
At this, Tanka took a few steps forward.
Nan-yo said, "That's not right."
Tanka walked around Nan-yo one time and left.
Nan-yo commented, "The old, golden days are far away, and people are now so lazy. Thirty years from now, it will be difficult to get hold of this fellow."


Question 1
Why have so many Western intellectuals been drawn to an examination of Zen?
Question 2
D.T. Suzuki, the man who introduced Zen to the Western intelligentsia, said: "Zen must be seized with bare hands, with no gloves on."
Would you like to comment?
Question 3
Beloved Osho, D.T. Suzuki describes two different kinds of "seeing" as denoted by two different Chinese characters.
"K'an" consists of a hand and an eye and means "to watch an object as independent of the spectator" -- objective knowledge.
"The seen and the seeing are two separate entities."
On the other hand, the character "chien" is composed of an eye alone on two outstretched legs, and signifies the pure act of seeing.
Suzuki considers the difference between these two kinds of seeing as "revolutionary in the history of Zen thought."


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