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syn = Reader of the sutras/questions: [[Ma Prem Maneesha]].<br>After discourse Osho leads [[No-Mind Meditation]]. | | syn = Reader of the sutras/questions: [[Ma Prem Maneesha]].<br>After discourse Osho leads [[No-Mind Meditation]]. | ||
:A sutra: | |||
::Beloved Osho, | |||
::When Tenjiku was asked about the incident of Tanka burning the statue, he replied, "When it is cold we gather around the hearth by the fire." | |||
::"Was he wrong or not?" persisted the monk. | |||
::"When it is hot we sit in a bamboo forest in the valley," said Tenjiku. | |||
::The day after the burning of the statue, Tanka Tennen went to see Nan-Yo, who had once been a disciple of Eno and was the emperor's Zen master. When Tanka unrolled his Zazen rug, Nan-Yo said, "There's no need." | |||
::Tanka took a few steps backward. | |||
::Nan-Yo said, "That's right." | |||
::At this, Tanka took a few steps forward. | |||
::Nan-Yo said, "That's not right." | |||
::Tanka walked around Nan-Yo one time and left. | |||
::Nan-Yo commented, "The old, golden days are far away, and people are now so lazy. Thirty years from now, it will be difficult to get hold of this fellow." | |||
:Question 1 | |||
::Why have so many Western intellectuals been drawn to an examination of Zen? | |||
:Question 2 | |||
::D.T. Suzuki, the man who introduced Zen to the Western intelligentsia, said: "Zen must be seized with bare hands, with no gloves on." | |||
::Would you like to comment? | |||
:Question 3 from [[Ma Prem Maneesha|Maneesha]] | |||
::Beloved Osho, | |||
::D.T. Suzuki describes two different kinds of "seeing" as denoted by two different Chinese characters. | |||
::"K'an" consists of a hand and an eye and means "to watch an object as independent of the spectator" -- objective knowledge. | |||
::"The seen and the seeing are two separate entities." | |||
::On the other hand, the character "Chien" is composed of an eye alone on two outstretched legs, and signifies the pure act of seeing. | |||
::Suzuki considers the difference between these two kinds of seeing as "revolutionary in the history of Zen thought." | |||
:(Questions and sutras quoted from ''[[Osho Books on CD-ROM]]'', ver 1.01.) | |||
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prevevent = I Celebrate Myself ~ 07 | | prevevent = I Celebrate Myself ~ 07 | | ||
nextevent = The Zen Manifesto ~ 02 | | nextevent = The Zen Manifesto ~ 02 | |
Revision as of 05:03, 9 February 2019
event type | discourse & meditation |
date & time | 20 Feb 1989 pm |
location | Gautam the Buddha Auditorium, Pune |
language | English |
audio | Available, duration 3h 37min. Quality: good, but a slight constant noise. Osho leading meditation from 3:09:55. Live music after the discourse. |
online audio | |
video | Available, duration 3h 39min. Quality: good, but a strong constant audio-noise, video-noise at bottom of screen. Incomplete: missing some 25 words between part 1 and 2 (under revision). |
online video | |
see also |
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online text | find the PDF of this discourse |
shorttitle | ZENMAN01 |
- notes
- synopsis
- Reader of the sutras/questions: Ma Prem Maneesha.
After discourse Osho leads No-Mind Meditation.
- A sutra:
- Beloved Osho,
- When Tenjiku was asked about the incident of Tanka burning the statue, he replied, "When it is cold we gather around the hearth by the fire."
- "Was he wrong or not?" persisted the monk.
- "When it is hot we sit in a bamboo forest in the valley," said Tenjiku.
- The day after the burning of the statue, Tanka Tennen went to see Nan-Yo, who had once been a disciple of Eno and was the emperor's Zen master. When Tanka unrolled his Zazen rug, Nan-Yo said, "There's no need."
- Tanka took a few steps backward.
- Nan-Yo said, "That's right."
- At this, Tanka took a few steps forward.
- Nan-Yo said, "That's not right."
- Tanka walked around Nan-Yo one time and left.
- Nan-Yo commented, "The old, golden days are far away, and people are now so lazy. Thirty years from now, it will be difficult to get hold of this fellow."
- Question 1
- Why have so many Western intellectuals been drawn to an examination of Zen?
- Question 2
- D.T. Suzuki, the man who introduced Zen to the Western intelligentsia, said: "Zen must be seized with bare hands, with no gloves on."
- Would you like to comment?
- Question 3 from Maneesha
- Beloved Osho,
- D.T. Suzuki describes two different kinds of "seeing" as denoted by two different Chinese characters.
- "K'an" consists of a hand and an eye and means "to watch an object as independent of the spectator" -- objective knowledge.
- "The seen and the seeing are two separate entities."
- On the other hand, the character "Chien" is composed of an eye alone on two outstretched legs, and signifies the pure act of seeing.
- Suzuki considers the difference between these two kinds of seeing as "revolutionary in the history of Zen thought."
- (Questions and sutras quoted from Osho Books on CD-ROM, ver 1.01.)
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