The Zen Manifesto ~ 11
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| event type | discourse & meditation |
| date & time | 10 Apr 1989, 19:00 |
| location | Gautam the Buddha Auditorium, Pune |
| language | English |
| audio | Available, duration 1h 55min. Quality: good. Osho leading meditation from 1:45:11. Live music after the discourse. |
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| video | Available, duration 1h 56min. Quality: good, but a constant audio-noise. |
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| online text | find the PDF of this discourse |
| shorttitle | ZENMAN11 |
- notes
- This was to be the start of a new series: The Awakening of the Buddha
- synopsis
- Reader of the sutras: Ma Prem Maneesha. Questions are being read by Osho himself.
After discourse Osho leads No-Mind Meditation.
- The sutras
- Tozan had a question about whether inanimate objects expound the dharma. Tozan visited Isan, who recommended that he go to see Ungan.
- With Ungan, Tozan was first made aware of the truth, and he composed the following gatha to record his experience:
- "How wonderful! How wonderful!
- The inanimate expounding the dharma --
- What an ineffable truth!
- If you try to hear it with your ears,
- You will never understand it.
- Only when you hear it through the eye,
- Will you really know it."
- Ungan asked him, "Are you happy now?"
- Tozan answered, "I do not say that I am not happy, but my happiness is like that of someone who has picked up a bright pearl from a heap of garbage."
- For a while after his enlightenment, Tozan continued to travel around China. One day he arrived at Leh T'an and met the head monk, Ch'u. Ch'u greeted Tozan and said:
- "Wonderful, wonderful -- the inconceivable realms of Tao and Buddha!"
- Tozan responded, "I don't know about these realms. Who is talking of them?"
- Ch'u remained silent, and Tozan shouted, "Speak!"
- Ch'u then said, "No need to fight about it. That is the way to miss."
- Tozan replied, "If it has not been mentioned, how can there be fighting and missing?"
- Ch'u could make no answer to this.
- Tozan then said, "Buddha and Tao -- next you will talk of sutras."
- Ch'u replied, "What do the sutras say about this?"
- Tozan responded, "When all is understood, words are forgotten."
- Ch'u said, "This is sickness of the mind."
- Tozan said, "Is this sickness slight or severe?"
- Ch'u could make no reply to Tozan.
- Question 1
- Gesta Ital, a former famous German actress, was the first Western woman who was allowed to enter in a Zen monastery in Japan and to work with an enlightened master.
- She wrote two books about her path and her experience of enlightenment. When I read these books I had the impression of a very hard and lonely path. Being with you is much more joyful and playful. Would you like to say something about this difference?
- Question 2
- I cannot put it into words how much I am always touched by the beauty of your expressions -- in your words, your gestures and now especially in your paintings.
- What exactly happens, when you are sitting in front of an empty paper?
- Is there still an urge for artistic creativity when one is enlightened?
- Could you please tell us about Zen and art and creativity?
- Question 3
- When energy goes inward it turns into thoughts, feelings, emotions, and when energy goes outward it turns into relationships with beings and nature. But when energy does not move inward or outward, it is just there pulsating, vibrating. Then it is one with the existence, one with the whole. Is this zazen?
- Question 4
- Beloved Osho, the philosopher Karl Jaspers, writes in volume three of his book, 'Philosophy': "To ask real questions about reality, man must have thought, investigated, and oriented himself by distinctions... Real is what can be measured, what our senses can perceive in space and time according to rules, what can be controlled or calculated, at least, by appropriate measures."
- Would you like to comment?
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