Zarathustra The Laughing Prophet ~ 05

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event type discourse
date & time 10 Apr 1987, 8:00
location Chuang Tzu Auditorium, Pune
language English
audio Available, duration 2h 5min. Quality: good.
Live music after the discourse.
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shorttitle ZARA205
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synopsis
Reader of the sutra: Ma Prem Maneesha.
The sutra
Edited excerpt: 5min 35sec, a part of answer to the sutra 1 **
Of redemption
Truly, my friends, I walk among men as among the fragments and limbs of men!
The terrible thing to my eye is to find men shattered in pieces and scattered as if over a battle-field of slaughter.
And when my eye flees from the present to the past, it always discovers the same thing: fragments and limbs and dreadful chances -- but no men!
The present and the past upon the earth -- alas! My friends -- that is my most intolerable burden; and I should not know how to live, if I were not a seer of that which must come.
A seer, a willer, a creator, a future itself and a bridge to the future -- and alas, also like a cripple upon this bridge: Zarathustra is all this.
And even you have often asked yourselves: who is Zarathustra to us? What shall we call him? And, like me, you answer your own questions with questions.
Is he a promiser? Or a fulfiller? A conqueror? Or an inheritor? A harvest? Or a plowshare? A physician? Or a convalescent?
Is he a poet? Or a genuine man? A liberator? Or a subduer? A good man? Or an evil man?...
... It is all my art and aim, to compose into one and bring together what is fragment and riddle and dreadful chance....
Will -- that is what the liberator and bringer of joy is called: thus I have taught you, my friends! But now learn this as well: the will itself is still a prisoner.
Willing liberates: but what is it that fastens in fetters even the liberator?
'It was': that is what the will's teeth-gnashing and most lonely affliction is called. Powerless against that which has been done, the will is an angry spectator of all things past.
The will cannot will backwards; that it cannot break time and time's desire -- that is the will's most lonely affliction.
Willing liberates: what does willing itself devise to free itself from its affliction and to mock at its dungeon?...
The spirit of revenge: my friends, that, up to now, has been mankind's chief concern; and where there was suffering, there was always supposed to be punishment.
'Punishment' is what revenge calls itself: it feigns a good conscience for itself with a lie....
'Except the will at last redeem itself and willing become not-willing -- ': but you, my brothers, know this fable-song of madness!
I led you away from these fable-songs when I taught you: 'The will is a creator....'
Has the will become its own redeemer and bringer of joy? Has it unlearned the spirit of revenge...?
... Thus spake Zarathustra.


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