Zen The Quantum Leap ~ 11

event type	discourse & meditation
date & time	22 Jun 1988 pm
location	Gautam the Buddha Auditorium, Pune
language	English
audio	Available, duration 1h 6min. Quality: good. Osho leading meditation from 55:29. Live music after the discourse.
online audio	free download from OshoWorld purchase from Osho.com
video	Available, duration 1h 8min. Quality: inferior, during Osho arriving video-noise (under revision).
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see also	timeline : Osho Timeline 1988 first edition : Zen: The Quantum Leap from Mind to No-Mind (1988.11) other editions, translations and links
online text	find the PDF of this discourse
shorttitle	QUANT11

notes

synopsis: Reader of the sutra: Ma Prem Maneesha. Questions are being read by Osho himself.
After discourse Osho leads No-Mind Meditation.

The sutra

Suigan, thinking he had attained something of Zen, left Jimyo's monastery, when he was still a young monk, to travel all over China.

Years later, when Suigan returned to visit the monastery, his old teacher asked, "Tell me the summary of Buddhism."

Suigan answered, "If a cloud does not hang over the mountain, the moonlight will penetrate the waves of the lake."

Jimyo looked at his former pupil in anger. He said, "You are getting old! Your hair has turned white, and your teeth are sparse, yet you still have such an idea of Zen. How can you escape birth and death?"

Tears washed Suigan's face as he bent his head. After a few minutes he asked, "Please tell me the summary of Buddhism."

"If a cloud does not hang over the mountain," the teacher replied, "the moonlight will penetrate the waves of the lake."

Before the teacher had finished speaking, Suigan was enlightened.

Question 1

Beloved Osho, I have heard some sannyasins say, about fellow sannyasins who decide to do something else other than be here, "Oh well, perhaps they need to do what they are doing." Is that true?

On one hand I see that if we use everything we decide to do, intelligently, of course we will learn from it, so it can't be said we have missed, or that we did not need to do it.

On the other hand, if we are going to decide what we need to do, what is the point of being with a master?

(source:CD-ROM)