Anant Ki Pukar ~ 08

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अनंत की पुकार ~ 08

event type personal interview
date & time 23 Jan 1968 am
location Bombay
language Hindi
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See Talk:Anant Ki Pukar (अनंत की पुकार). Talks to Organizers/Work
(Translated as in Work Is Love Made Visible)
Interview One
Question 1
Osho, I would like to present something about your life and your philosophy of life in a magazine.
Question 2
Only yesterday you said that we should not run away from life.
Question 3
Where were you born and when were you born?
Question 4
Near Jabalpur?
Question 5
Are your mother and father still alive?
Question 6
Are they Jainas?
Question 7
Are they traditional Jainas?
Question 8
All right, between the two of them - your mother and father - whose influence do you feel is greater on you?
Question 9
Nobody influences you?
Question 10
In your school life do you remember any eventful episodes?
Question 11
Would you share one or two?
Question 12
Was there someone from whom you may have received some loving impetus in all this growth of yours, or some event which is still vividly in your memory even now? For instance, you told us yesterday about a man who renounced money, but that fact remained in his memory for thirty years.
Question 13
When did this happen? How old were you?
Question 14
In your school life did you have a special interest in any teacher or was there someone whom you respected?
Question 15
All right. Any incident in college life?
Question 16
You were expelled from the college?
Question 17
He (his professor) was not ready to keep you in his class?
Question 18
No questions?
Question 19
Did you like anyone's lifestyle in the college - some teacher who thought that your logical ability was a good thing?
Question 20
Question 21
What is his name?
Question 22
Right, so now you have become eager to create an ashram, the purpose of which is to make humanity human. Your college teaching work was also similar, so why did you leave it?
Question 23
All right. Now, about the ashram that you would like to make:
I have a feeling that, as you have also said, there are so many ashrams in India, this one could be just one more. Might this not become the case?
Question 24
But everyone says, “Our ashram is very different!”
Question 25
I do understand your vision. That is why I am asking this question, I hear you teaching that there should be no ashrams. Anyway, you can transform mankind through your talks. So what is the need of an ashram?
Question 26
Will it be like Shanti Niketan?
Question 27
This is fine, but with the ashram I think that... now you are here, everything is all right, but later on, what if it becomes like all the others?
Question 28
The people staying close to you will be influenced by you, but you say that nobody should have any influence on anybody else. So what is the point of staying close to you? Why should someone come and stay?
Question 29
That is what the mind thinks, but I feel that people who come to you will be influenced by you. How is it possible not to be influenced?
Interview Two
Question 30
Osho, people have been comparing you and Krishnamurti.
Question 31
Some of his people have already come.
Question 32
The thing is that if only one of the articles is published there will be unnecessary opposition. But if both are published, then we are on equal ground.
Question 33
But Kishan Singh would be a more appropriate person for this.
Question 34
Kishan Singh was saying he spent a lot of time with you in Ahmedabad.
Question 35
All right. Yesterday there was something that I did not agree with, did not like.
Bhulajibhai said that the names of those who give a substantial amount of money will be engraved on a marble plate, that there will be boards bearing their names. To me, in a place where uprooting the ego is being taught, why should its very foundations have something that enhances the ego? I feel this is putting our egos into the very foundations. Just as you were saying yesterday - that if we give money, you will not thank us for it - in the same way he should say that however much money a person gives, their name will not be inscribed anywhere, because the money is not being given for the sake of having one’s name written on a board. To give people’s names is, in a way, to perpetuate the ego.
That is why for the name...
Question 36
Because it has to start with authenticity right from the beginning, so that nothing wrong comes in.
Question 37
Are you going to Jabalpur now?
Interview Three --(editor: Osho's response added here, these are remarks about translating his Hindi to English)
Question 38
Osho, you have mentioned two points regarding your talks. One is to make a compilation for the press. And the other is that there should be a book about your philosophy, your thinking. And if some translation is still remaining then...
answer - Yes, some translation work still remains.
All three things are useful. One is that there should be a com­pilation representing my whole philosophy, so that just by reading one book my entire vision can be understood. Secondly, Madhu can pull out material for the press. And at the same time, there is great demand for all the books throughout the country, and if some translation could also reach people in English... All these three approaches will be useful.
Recently one friend translated something, but I didn’t like it. He had translated The Perfect Way, but it was not a good translation. One thing was that he translated it in an Eastern way - just like Eastern scholars would, just as one would translate ancient scriptures like the Puranas. He translated it into archaic English. It did not feel good. And then he also made some fundamental mistakes. In many places the meaning became completely the opposite of what I had said. So that translation had to be stopped, it was not allowed to be sold. But the book had already reached some places.
Question 39
It had not been shown to you beforehand?
It has become very difficult for me to see everything. I do not get so much time, because day and night I am traveling.
Question 40
But it is important that at least you have a glance at it before it goes into print.
Yes, I was sent a small part of it, some eight or ten pages. What happened was that those few pages that were sent to me in the beginning seemed to be all right. After seeing them, I returned them. Then what happened was that the person who had translated those eight or so pages did not carry on with the work, and he got someone else to carry on translating it. And then everything went wrong. But now, if you or someone else can look into this area a little, do so. Then it will be good.
Question 41
I will try.
Yes, yes. Do try.
Question 42
Right now I am busy with one or two books of my own. They are going to print now. I will have to manage things a little. After that I will surely see to it.
Yes. Do look at the translations. All of them will be sent to you. Just have a glance at them.
Question 43
I will look at the compilation and also have a look at the translations that have been done.
So have a look at them. Translating can only be enjoyable if you like it.
Question 44
I think that the translations should not be done in such a way that they look like translations.
They should not be like that, you are absolutely right. Otherwise they will not be enjoyable to read.
Question 45
The meaning should come correctly, and the language of the translation should be similar to the way you speak in English.
All right, good. That is it. That is right.
Question 46
If the translation appears to be a translation, then the readers do not enjoy it.
They do not.
Question 47
So it is good if the person who is translating reads your books, listens to you...
Yes, here there are many recordings. You could listen to some tapes...
Question 48
One is in the way of a philosophical exposition, which means saying what you are trying to say and giving the logic behind it.
If someone could present it in that manner, then it could be very influential in foreign countries too, because there, people prefer analysis.
Just look through it once, and then think about it in these two or three ways - about how it can be done. But it has become very necessary.
Question 49
There is a lot of demand, and there is only one book available in English, up to now. So our problem is that when we give people this book, they ask for more. So we need to work from the point of view of how this demand can be fulfilled.
So you do something!
Question 50
Yes, of course. Whatever you have said we have all liked very much. And the book, which has been produced from your talks, all the beautiful words you say, are liked by all the readers including women and children.
Everyone enjoys the book. Once you start reading it, you want to finish it and only then put it down. You feel that once you start it you have to finish it. People like the book a lot. All the students are reading it. No one wants to put it down. Just now I have returned from the college.
That is good. Please also make some effort, write something in Hindi. For example, what I was speaking about with the women yesterday, you could write an article about it - that will be good in Hindi - and then send it to some good magazine here. And it could also be printed in the form of a booklet. People are already doing this in Gujarati. You could take some trouble and do it in Hindi too.
Interview Four
Question 51
Osho, to reach the ultimate goal, is it essential to start from meditation?
It is essential to start from meditation.
Question 52
Then how to meditate?
For that you come to a three-day meditation camp, where I am teaching meditation for three days.
Question 53
Where will the meditation camp take place?
Now there is a camp in Aajol, which is near Ahmedabad. Come to Aajol for three days, otherwise there is a camp in Indore after that - come there. If you do the whole process with me for three days, you will get the idea, the understanding. You will really understand.
Interview Five -- Talks with the Times of India reporter
Question 54
Osho, where were you born?
Question 55
In which year?
Question 56
How many brothers are you?
Question 57
Are you the eldest?
Question 58
Question 59
What did your father do?
Question 60
Your education?
Question 61
From which University?
Question 62
In which subject did you do your M.A.?
Question 63
When did you have the inner inspiration for spirituality? At what age?
Question 64
So until your M.A. you stayed with your family and then you decided to renounce the world?
Question 65
Take Vinoba Bhave, for example. He has renounced the world. He does not have a paisa on him. Take Gandhi-ji. Are they not sannyasins?
Question 66
What do you mean by a life-affirmative, life-positive vision?
Question 67
Is there a goal beyond life?
Question 68
What attainment? When there is nothing beyond life, then what do you attain?
Question 69
What happens when we die?
Question 70
There is no death?
Question 71
But a man dies, or does he not?
Question 72
Do you believe that in life everything reaches its end?
Question 73
Whether this is a fiction or not, we always reach to an end with life. A tree dies after some time. Animals die, birds die, human beings also die. At the level of the body we all die.
Question 74
But a tree also has life.
Question 75
Are you trying to say, in other words, that only the body dies, what is inside does not die?
Question 76
But the body dies - the human body! Do you accept this?
Question 77
What would you call this? We call it soul.
Question 78
Once this body dies, is it possible to contact the soul again?
Question 79
You have said in this pamphlet that there is a need to pour new life into spirituality, religion. What do you mean by “pouring new life”? Is there something wrong with the religion in India?
Question 80
But in India there are so many religions! If you say religion, then I have one religion; some other person has another religion...
Question 81
So everything is wrong?
Question 82
In India?
Question 83
No, about foreign countries we cannot say anything.
Question 84
So there can be no organized religion in the world?
Question 85
Only one?
Question 86
In other words, in every religion truth is one and the same, but the ways to attain to truth are different. According to my understanding religions are ways.
Question 87
It is not that religion does not teach meditation. In religion meditation comes, fasting comes, self-denial also comes. Religion and spirituality are one and the same thing. Without suppressing oneself, without purifying one’s bad deeds, how is this possible?
Question 88
But a man commits bad deeds.
Question 89
And he cannot be blamed for that because God has created him. Has God created us or is there no God?
Question 90
This I know. If there is no difference between the two, then we are one with the creator, the one who has created us.
Question 91
No one created us?
Question 92
I am coming to that point. This is the real thing. I am asking: is there anyone who has created us? Is there a God?
Question 93
There is no God?
Question 94
No one else can be the creator!
Question 95
I am not talking of creativity; I am talking of the creation.

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