Communism and Zen Fire ~ 04

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event type discourse & meditation
date & time 2 Feb 1989 pm
location Gautam the Buddha Auditorium, Pune
language English
audio Available, duration 2h 40min. Quality: good.
Osho leading meditation from 2:16:46.
Live music after the discourse.
online audio
video Available, duration 2h 32min. Quality: good.
online video
see also
online text find the PDF of this discourse
shorttitle FIRE04
Reader of the sutra: Ma Prem Maneesha. Questions are being read by Osho himself.
After discourse Osho leads No-Mind Meditation.
The sutra
One day, Ungan was sweeping the garden with a bamboo broom. His brother Dogo came over to him and said, "hey, you look terribly busy!"
Ungan said, "Although busy, there is something which is not busy."
Dogo said, "That means there are two moons."
Then Ungan put the broom on the ground and said, "What moon is this?"
Dogo silently left.
At another time, Ungan asked a monk, "Where are you from?"
The monk replied, "I came with incense."
Ungan asked, "Did you see buddha?"
The monk replied, "Yes, I did."
"Where did you see him?" Ungan asked.
The monk replied, "I saw him in the lower world."
Ungan said, "The old buddha! The old buddha!"

Question 1
What is the difference between communism and socialism?
Question 2
Is it not true that in the Russian people the Zorba is already so much alive that it is easier to bring Buddha in that country than in any other? And is it really dependent on communism, because people are less conditioned?
Question 3
Our Beloved Master, it seems that the freedom of capitalism always meant the freedom of the jungle and the victor of the most powerful ego. In America, North as well as South America, it also meant starvation of the poor and organized prostitution and crime on a very wide scale. Is not socialism and communism a necessary step in the development of a more humane society?


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