Communism and Zen Fire ~ 06
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| event type | discourse & meditation |
| date & time | 4 Feb 1989 pm |
| location | Gautam the Buddha Auditorium, Pune |
| language | English |
| audio | Available, duration 4h 6min. Quality: good. Osho leading meditation from 3:44:38. Live music after the discourse. |
| online audio | |
| video | Available, duration 4h 1min. Quality: good. Incomplete: between video part 1 and 2 missing 6 paragraphs in the middle of Q2. |
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| online text | find the PDF of this discourse |
| shorttitle | FIRE06 |
- notes
- synopsis
- Reader of the sutra: Ma Prem Maneesha. Questions are being read by Osho himself.
After discourse Osho leads No-Mind Meditation.
- The sutra
- Dogo visited Nansen, who asked him, "What is your name?"
- Dogo replied, "My name is Enchi."
- Nansen asked, "How do you express the place where wisdom doesn't reach?"
- Dogo replied, "I would never express it."
- Nansen said, "That's right. If you express it, horns will grow and you will become a beast."
- A few days later, Dogo and Ungan were sitting outside the dormitory and doing some work. Nansen was taking a walk, and when he saw Dogo, he asked, "Enchi, the other day, you said you would never express the place where wisdom doesn't reach. Now, how are you practicing it?"
- Hearing this, Dogo slipped into the dormitory, waited there until Nansen walked away and then appeared again.
- Ungan asked Dogo, "Why didn't you answer when Osho asked you the question?"
- Dogo replied, "What a clever chap you are!"
- Then Ungan came up to Nansen and asked, "Osho, you have asked a question just now of my brother-disciple, Enchi. How should one answer to it?"
- Nansen said, "He is quite good at the beasts' way."
- Ungan asked, "What is the beasts' way?"
- Nansen said, "You must have heard that you should never express the place where wisdom doesn't reach. If you express it, horns will grow. If you name it so-and-so, it will already be wrong. You should immediately go the beasts' way."
- Question 1
- While growing up in the Soviet Union I had always opposed the USSR's closed-door policies, and somewhere felt disappointed that I was born there. Now after experiencing life in the West and hearing your revolutionary, mind-blowing discourses on the value of the seventy-year dictatorial regime, I can so clearly see the depth, the wisdom, the truth of your words. And in the depth of my heart I feel so fortunate and grateful that I had the opportunity to live there.
- Do you think that the people of the Soviet land will be able to see the values of their country's past dictatorial regime without having to go through the experience of the Western style living, and without falling into the trap of trying to imitate the West?
- Question 2
- Revolutionaries have always claimed that it is society's repressive instruments of control that deform humanity and produce the ugly behavior of man.
- The reactionaries have claimed the opposite: That human nature is inherently ugly, and that it is only the instruments of control that limit this ugliness and allow what little civilization there is. They say that without such control, this ugly behavior would rapidly reduce us to barbarity.
- It seems that, as always, your approach is completely different and totally unique. Would you talk about this centuries-old controversy?
- Question 3
- Our Beloved Master, once again you are the iconoclastic visionary who has a totally original view of what is happening, while we have swallowed wholesale the New Gospel according to the information industry, whose current creed is that Stalin is bad and Gorbachev, good.
- Why do we keep buying into new gospels?
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