Feb-Mar-1980 Darshans
Introduction
Skip to the "Update" section below if you have read this intro, which has been rendered partially obsolete by the acquisition of significant info for the Feb 1980 period.
In Feb and Mar of 1980, Osho came out to see people in darshan as he usually did before and after this period but the record of these two months' worth of darshans has got scrambled in an unprecedented way in the CD-ROM, which is unfortunately the only "official" record we have.
The two "books" involved are If You Choose to Be with Me, You Must Risk Finding Yourself and Fingers Pointing to the Moon, covering the darshans in Feb and Mar 1980 respectively. "Books" is in quote marks because they were never actually published; only edited transcripts are available, and those only in the CD-ROM. And they have been butchered.
A lot of information has been lost, and we don't even know how much. What has happened is that the CD-ROM's edited transcripts are associated with dates that cannot be possible, so actual dates have to be considered unknown. And how much the talks have been cut and edited is also unknown. The CD-ROM's date structure is specifically this:
All the sannyas talks given in Feb, for all 29 nights, have been put -- we have to assume arbitrarily -- into ten chapters. These ten chapters have been assigned dates by the CD-ROM, but most of these dates are wrong, though we can't know which ones are right and which wrong, or what correspondence there might be, if any.
The wiki has compiled lists of every name we could find in these two books but many more people were taking sannyas than the total of only 36 names for the whole month of Feb suggests. Our estimate for Feb is 213. The counts for the similarly afflicted Mar collection are 30 and 241. Where do these estimates come from?
There are some clues in the layout of Osho's words in the CD-ROM for these two months. Most paragraphs are separated only by a carriage return. Every so often (approx every 2-7 paragraphs), they are separated by more than that, by a line of space. At the same time as this extra separation occurs, Osho's words change direction, there is a different theme, a different message. This strongly suggests that the extra spaces demarcate one new sannyasin's words from the next. And in some of the chapters of Fingers, there are even more obvious demarcations, a few words in all-CAPS about the new name, followed by a few paragraphs.
These indications give us a strikingly different count, and a good estimate of how many names have been omitted. These spaces are not absolute guidelines, and in some cases, there seems to be a continuity in Osho's message before and after the space, and so the spaces in these cases have not been counted as separative.
The two tables below are what we know about who took sannyas when in these two months. The first is all the info we could wring out of the CD-ROM, the second such individual names and dates info that has trickled in. If you or a friend took sannyas in these two months, please write to let us know.
Update
A correspondent has sent a list of what purports to be all those taking sannyas in Feb 1980, with names, their meanings and dates. There are 228 entries in that collection, compared to the 213 we estimated earlier. We cannot verify this info but it has all but one of the names found in the CD-ROM's version of If You Choose and has the ring of truth and so will be adopted provisionally.
One does not have to look deeply to see that the arrangement of If You Choose's chapters bears no relation to the sannyas dates found in our correspondent's offering. The organizing principle of this never-published book seems to have been a broadly thematic one, judging by titles assigned to eight of its ten chapters in the CD-ROM: "Truth", "Prayer", "Music" and so on. These titles appear to be a way to sort Osho's words to these new disciples into categories, but not all fit comfortably into that model, and two chapters have no titles. Perhaps they are Miscellaneous?
Fingers' seven chapter titles are more fluid, "Allowing", "Sharing", "Celebrating", etc, and perhaps more accommodating to this new idea of organizing the DDs. But as we have seen, publishing-wise, the books never made it to the bookstore.
Previous Darshan Diaries had been organized purely around dates. Most of them have no chapter titles; those few that do have very particular titles pertaining to just one of the people who took sannyas that night, not unlike the way chapter titles in Q&A discourse books take their titles from one of that day's questions. Whether titled or not, chapters in all other DDs contain Osho's words from only one date per chapter, though they often have extra features as well, interviews and ashram life articles, but these are clearly secondary, and never included in the CD-ROM.
The CD-ROM version of If You Choose also has occasional notes like "p 195 is missing and interviews with Ma Anand Savita and Ma Prem Divya are not included". This indicates a fair bit of development of the book process, interviews had been conducted, pages numbered, etc. It was not such a mish-mash, there was obvious planning behind it, etc. Such notes are not found for other books in the CD-ROM. Probably they are "production-only" notes, the kind that would disappear before publication. Thus, this may be a snapshot of a book in mid-production, which got derailed at the Ranch, when it was finally decided to give up on all DDs.
CD-ROM Chapters
Below are the names gathered from If You Choose and Fingers, with a count of the apparent number of people getting sannyas messages for each chapter. Old names or other identifying info, if available, are in parentheses.
| If You Choose to Be with Me, You Must Risk Finding Yourself |
Fingers Pointing to the Moon |
|---|---|
ch 1 -- 35
ch 2 -- 27
ch 3 -- 12
ch 4 -- 23
ch 5 -- 12
ch 6 -- 15
ch 7 -- 13
ch 8 -- 26
ch 9 -- 23
ch 10 -- 27
|
ch 1 -- 49
ch 2 -- 20
ch 3 -- 38
ch 4 -- 46
ch 5 -- 26
ch 6 -- 28
ch 7 -- 34
|
Sannyas Dates
Osho's words to new sannyasins for these two months are possibly near-intact in the CD-ROM but their dates are completely unknown and most of the names have been removed.
The table below is based on info from a correspondent and appears to cover all of Feb 1980 but none of Mar. If there's anything you can add, even if just a single name and date for Mar, please let us know. Still to do are links for the (almost entirely non-existent) name-pages and ch # in the CD-ROM. 
| Feb date |
name(s) | meaning(s) | CD-ROM ch |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Ma Edda (Edda) | happiness | ch.4 |
| Ma Katja (Katja) | purity | ch.8 | |
| Sw Sunito (Manfred) | the virtuous one | ch.10 | |
| Sw Hari (Wilhelm) | name of god | ch.2 | |
| Sw Akash (David) | the sky | ch.1 | |
| Sw Paramhans (Herb) | the great swan | ch.5 | |
| Ma Prabhu Parinito (Claudia) | god, married to | ch.1 | |
| 2 | Sw Curtis (Curtis) | fit for the court life / the gracious one | ch.1 |
| Ma Jute (Jute) | praise | ch.1 | |
| Sw Prionsias (Prionsias) | living in freedom | ch.8 | |
| Ma Annie (Annie) | prayer | ch.6 | |
| Ma Regina (Regina) | queen / purity | ch.10 | |
| 3 | Ma Jutta (Jutta) | praise | ch.6 |
| Ma Joanne (Joanne) | grace of the lord | ch.10 | |
| Sw Hans Peter (Hans Peter) | god's gracious gift, strong spirit | ch.8 | |
| Ma Gabriele (Gabriele) | one who belongs to god | ch.1 | |
| Ma Tanmaya (Ruth) | one who is utterly dissolved | ch.2 | |
| Sw Chidanando (Klaus) | consciousness is bliss | ch.5 | |
| Ma Chinmayo (Florence) | pure consciousness | ch.5 | |
| Sw Vinod (10-yr-old John) | laughter | ch.10 | |
| 4 | Ma Dhyan Constanze (Constanze) | awareness, constant | ch.5 |
| Sw Prem Niek (Niek) | love, victory | ch.9 | |
| Ma Elisabeth (Elisabeth) | one who worships god | ch.6 (two pieces) | |
| Sw Deva Klaus (Klaus) | god, victory | ch.1 and same in ch.2 | |
| Sw Anand Bob (Bob) | bliss, bright | ch.4 | |
| Ma Monika (Monika) | aloneness, wisdom | ch.10 | |
| Ma Son Dra (Son Dra) | meaningless, music | ch.7 | |
| Sw Pragitam (Alberto) | a song | ch.7 | |
| Sw Gyandip (Filip) | a lamp of wisdom | ch.1 | |
| Sw Premdip (Willi) | a lamp of love | ch.9 | |
| 5 | Ma Dhyan Anna (Anna) | meditation, prayer | ch.6 |
| Sw Anand Gil (Gil) | bliss, noble | ch.4 | |
| Sw Dhyan Terry (Terry) | meditation, soft / tall tower | ch.10 | |
| Ma Dhyan Lisa (Lisa) | meditation, consecrated to god | ch.10 | |
| Ma Isabella (Isabella) | one who worships god | ch.6 | |
| Ma Deva Nami (Nami) | divine, wave | ch.2 | |
| Sw Narayan (Shinsuke) | god | ch.8 | |
| Sw Devadutta (Shozo) | god-given | ch.1 | |
| Sw Sahajanando (Paul) | bliss is spontaneous | ch.4 | |
| Sw Devanando (Bernd) | bliss is divine | ch.4 | |
| 6 | Sw Ahron (Ahron) | the enlightened one | ch.8 |
| Sw Ernst (Ernst) | sincerity | ch.3 (two pieces) | |
| Sw Noel (Noel) | birthday of Christ | ch.1 | |
| Ma Aruna (Trinidad) | the morning sun | ch.1 | |
| Sw Satish (Peter) | truth is god | ch.3 | |
| Sw Prakash (Klaus) | light | ch.8 | |
| Sw Dhyandip (Martin) | a lamp of meditation | ch.10 | |
| Ma Anand Deeva (Hermine) | bliss, a small lamp | ch.4 | |
| 7 | Ma Marleen (Marleen) | rebellion, transformed heart | ch.5 |
| Ma Inula (Inula) | praise | ch.6 | |
| Ma Marguerite (Marguerite) | a child of light | ch.8 | |
| Ma Ida (Ida) | blesssings | ch.4 | |
| Sw Prashanto (Willy) | deep silence | ch.5 | |
| Ma Abhinavo (Jennifer) | the new one | ch.1 | |
| 8 | Ma Shanti Anne (Anne) | silence, prayer | ch.6 |
| Sw Anand Tomas (Tomas) | bliss, seeker of truth | ch.3 | |
| Sw Satyam Matjaz (Matjaz) | the ultimate truth, a gift of god | ch.3 | |
| Sw Navino (Ralf) | the new one | ch.1 | |
| 9 | Ma Anand Maite (Maite) | bliss, child of light | ch.4 |
| Ma Prem Liesbeth (Liesbeth) | love, devoted to god | ch.9 | |
| Sw Dhyan Stefano (Stefano) | meditation, the crowned one | ch.10 | |
| Ma Amrit Jane (Jane) | immortality, grace of god | ch.1 | |
| Ma Devapriya (Trees) | beloved of god | ch.9 | |
| Sw Prabhu Samarpito (Gerd) | god, surrendered to | ch.2 | |
| 10 | Sw Deva Guido (Guido) | divine, life | ch.1 |
| Sw Anand Michael (Michael) | bliss, godly | ch.4 | |
| Ma Amrit Premo (Tina) | immortal, love | ch.9 | |
| Sw Anand Asimo (Roberto) | bliss, infinite | ch.4 | |
| Ma Veet Asmita (Astrid) | going beyond, the ego | ch.2 | |
| Ma Veet Atita (Vivien) | going beyond, the past | ch.1 | |
| Sw Veet Mano (Ed) | going beyond, mind | ch.10 | |
| Ma Veet Vasana (Gabriele) | going beyond, desire | ch.8 | |
| Ma Sugandha (Nancy) | fragrance | ch.8 | |
| 11 | Ma Dhyan Martje (Martje) | meditation, a woman of discretion | ch.7 |
| Ma Deva Chantal (Chantal) | divine, a rock | ch.10 | |
| Sw Achim (Achim) | appointed by god | ch.10 | |
| Ma Angelika (Angelika) | a bringer of truth | ch.3 | |
| Ma Sandesh (Barbara) | the message | ch.7 | |
| Ma Anugit (Heather) | a small song | ch.7 | |
| Sw Amar (Felix) | the immortal one | ch.8 | |
| Ma Devagandha (Radha) | divine fragrance | ch.8 (two pieces) | |
| 12 | Sw Anand Jo (Jo) | bliss, god's gracious gift | ch.4 |
| Sw Evert Jan (Evert Jan) | always courageous, god's gracious gift | ch.2 | |
| Sw Prem Arndt (Arndt) | love, an eagle | ch.9 | |
| Sw Satyam Leo (Leo) | the truth, the courageous one / the lion | ch.1 | |
| Sw Nirakar (Rolf) | the formless | ch.10 | |
| Sw Vishramo (Harald) | total relaxation | ch.7 | |
| 13 | Sw Sahaj Helmuth (Helmuth) | spontaneous, courage | ch.1 |
| Sw Anand Jan (Jan) | truth, god's gracious gift | ch.3 | |
| Ma Deva Claudia (Claudia) | divine, of humble heart | ch.2 | |
| Ma Anand Adriana (Adriana) | bliss, creative heart | ch.4 | |
| Ma Deva Sigrid (Sigrid) | divine, beautiful | ch.2 | |
| Sw Veet Svapano (Hugh) | going beyond, dreams | ch.8 | |
| Ma Prem Aradhana (Erika) | love, prayer | ch.6 | |
| 14 | Sw Dhyan Eckhard (Eckhard) | meditation, a sword | ch.10 |
| Sw Anand John (John) | bliss, a gift of god | ch.9 | |
| Ma Prem Sylvia (Sylvia) | love, a goddess of the forest | ch.9 | |
| Sw Prem Antonius (Antonius) | love, immeasurable | ch.9 | |
| Sw Shunyam (Robert) | the utterly empty one | ch.2 | |
| Ma Satyama (Marion) | the ultimate truth | ch.3 | |
| Sw Sagaram (Guy) | the ocean | ch.8 | |
| 15 | Ma Victoria (Victoria) | victorious spirit | ch.1 |
| Sw Kent (Kent) | white | ch.8 | |
| Ma Maryke (Maryke) | rebellion / fragrance | ch.1 | |
| Sw Martin (Martin) | a loyal spirit | ch.2 | |
| Sw Svarupam (Peter) | self-nature | ch.8 | |
| Sw Sangitam (Jorge) | music | ch.7 | |
| Sw Nisargam (Pierre) | natural / spontaneous | ch.8 | |
| 16 | Sw Anand David (David) | bliss, beloved | ch.4 (two pieces) |
| Ma Prem Claire (Claire) | pure in grace | ch.9 | |
| Sw Antar Markus (Markus) | inner, a great warrior | ch.5 | |
| Sw Anand Manfred (Manfred) | bliss, a man of peace | ch.4 | |
| Sw Anand Jos (Jos) | bliss, increasing faithfulness | ch.4 | |
| Ma Veet Yamini (Marianne) | going beyond, night | ch.1 | |
| Sw Veet Gyanam (Franz-Joseph) | going beyond, knowledge | ch.2 | |
| Ma Satbodhi (Margaret) | realization of truth | ch.3 | |
| Ma Yashodhara (Barbara) | Gautam Buddha's wife | ch.9 | |
| 17 | Ma Anand Evelin (Evelin) | bliss, life | ch.4 |
| Ma Prem Marcia (Marcia) | love, brave heart | ch.9 | |
| Sw Anand Greg (Greg) | bliss, being watchful | ch.4 | |
| Ma Dhyan Elke (Elke) | meditation, nobleness | ch.7 | |
| Ma Prem Angelika (Angelika) | love, heavenly messenger | ch.10 | |
| Ma Anand Angelika (Angelika) | bliss, bringer of truth | ch.4 | |
| Sw Niravo (Manfred) | silence / a state of no-mind | ch.8 | |
| Ma Deva Viragini (Brigitta) | divine, one who longs to meet / one who suffers the separation | ch.2 | |
| Sw Punitam (Peter) | purity | ch.2 | |
| 18 | Sw Dhyan Robin (Robin) | meditation, strength of character | ch.7 |
| Sw Anand Rudi (Rudi) | bliss, a wolf / loyalty / courage | ch.2 | |
| Ma Anand Christine (Christine) | bliss, a follower of Christ | ch.8 | |
| Ma Prem Ashisha (Eva) | love, blessing | ch.9 | |
| Sw Anahato (Massimo) | the inner music | ch.7 (two pieces) | |
| Sw Swagato (Uli) | a welcome | ch.2 | |
| Sw Svarajyo (Frank-Thomas) | freedom | ch.8 | |
| Sw Veet Anagato (Andrew) | going beyond, the future | ch.8 | |
| 19 | Sw Dhyan Tony (Tony) | meditation, praiseworthy | ch.3 |
| Ma Dhyan Laurel (Laurel) | meditation, victory / immortality | ch.3 | |
| Sw Veet Thomas (Thomas) | going beyond, seeker of truth / "Doubting Thomas" | ch.3 and small piece in ch.2 | |
| Ma Dhyan Brigitte (Brigitte) | meditation, goddess of wisdom and song / a bridge | ch.10 | |
| Sw Dhyan Herbert (Herbert) | meditation, a diligent worker | ch.10 | |
| Ma Dhyan Anne (Anne) | meditation, prayer | ch.6 | |
| Sw Veet Manu (Gary) | going beyond, the mind / man | ch.8 | |
| Ma Dhyano (Isabella) | meditation | ch.10 | |
| 20 | Ma Deva Barbara (Barbara) | divine, a stranger / coming with joy | ch.1 |
| Sw Dhyan Steven (Steven) | meditation, the crowned one | ch.10 | |
| Ma Deva Marilyn (Marilyn) | divine, fragrance, waterfall | ch.2 | |
| Ma Anand Isabella (Isabella) | bliss, one who worships god | ch.6 | |
| Sw Anand Hardy (Hardy) | bliss, strong and brave | ch.4 | |
| Ma Antar Maria (Maria) | inner, rebellion | ch.5 | |
| Ma Veet Mieke (Mieke) | going beyond, bitterness | ch.10 | |
| Sw Deva Ladislav (Ladislav) | divine, glory of power | ch.2 | |
| Ma Dhyan Jinny (Jinny) | meditation, virgin | ch.10 | |
| Sw Anand Purnam (Gil) | bliss, perfect | ch.4 | |
| 21 | Ma Dhyan Martha (Martha) | meditation, a woman of discretion | ch.10 |
| Ma Prem Micaela (Micaela) | love, godly | ch.9 | |
| Sw Andreas (Andreas) | courageous | ch.1 | |
| Sw Samarpan Alberto (Alberto) | surrendered, noble | ch.1 | |
| Sw Jan (Jan) | god's gracious gift | ch.2 | |
| Sw Veetdeha (John) | going beyond the body | ch.5 | |
| Sw Vidroha (Joachim) | rebellion | ch.5 | |
| Ma Kamala (Jill) | the lotus | ch.5 | |
| 22 | Sw Allen (Allen) | the harmonious one / cheerful / beautiful | ch.1 |
| Sw Dhyan Sandro (Sandro) | meditation, one who turns evil away | ch.10 | |
| Ma Elvira (Elvira) | white | ch.8 | |
| Sw Antar Mark (Mark) | inner, warrior | ch.8 | |
| Ma Devapriya (Ruth) | beloved of god | ch.2 (two pieces) | |
| Ma Devarupa (Maaike) | divine beauty | ch.2 | |
| Sw Devagyan (Kurt) | divine wisdom | ch.3 | |
| Ma Devaprem (Sandra) | divine love | ch.9 | |
| 23 | Sw Dhyan Bernhard (Bernhard) | meditation, a masterful warrior | ch.6 |
| Sw Deva Stefano (Stefano) | divine, voice | ch.2 | |
| Sw Prem Didi (Didi) | love, a king | ch.9 (two pieces) | |
| Sw Andreas (Andreas) | the courageous one | ch.1 | |
| Sw Chandresh (Lars) | god of the moon | ch.1 | |
| Sw Azad (Rodolfo) | the free one | ch.1 | |
| Ma Veet Asakti (Claudia) | going beyond, attachment | ch.9 | |
| Sw Veetmana (Hartmut) | transcending the mind | ch.5 (two pieces) | |
| Ma Anandmayi (Dang Thi) | blissfulness | ch.6 | |
| Ma Premmayi (Truyen) | lovefulness | ch.9 | |
| 24 | Sw Samarpan Joel (Joel) | surrender, god is willing | ch.2 |
| Ma Prem Yvon (Yvon) | love, god's gracious gift | ch.9 | |
| Sw Anand Gerrit (Gerrit) | bliss, a loyal heart | ch.4 and ch.6 | |
| Ma Anand Marion (Marion) | bliss, beloved of god | ch.2 | |
| Sw Jivan Michael (Michael) | life, godly | ch.1 | |
| Ma Premgit (Lena) | song of love | ch.7 | |
| Ma Premdip (Jeanette) | light of love | ch.9 | |
| Ma Prem Pantha (Yvonne) | path of love | missing | |
| 25 | Ma Dhyan Lucretia (Lucretia) | meditation, light | ch.10 |
| Sw Deva Lutz (Lutz) | divine, glory | ch.8 | |
| Sw Anand Art (Art) | bliss, rock | ch.4 | |
| Sw Shantideva (Klaus) | god of peace | ch.1 | |
| Sw Premdeva (Albert) | god of love | ch.9 (two pieces) | |
| 26 | Sw Anand Stan (Stan) | bliss, sturdy spirit | ch.4 |
| Sw Anand Henrikus (Henrikus) | bliss, home | ch.4 | |
| Sw Anand Christoph (Christoph) | bliss, carrying Christ in the heart | ch.8 | |
| Sw Anand Prabuddha (Peter) | bliss, the awakened one | ch.1 | |
| Ma Prem Parinito (Carmen) | love, married to | ch.9 | |
| Ma Prem Navyo (Susan) | love, new | ch.9 | |
| Ma Prem Satyo (Ilona) | love, truth | ch.9 | |
| Sw Prem Divyo (Jeff) | love, divine | ch.9 | |
| 27 | Ma Yvonne (Yvonne) | god's precious gift | ch.1 |
| Ma Carolyn (Carolyn) | manly / a joyful spirit | ch.8 | |
| Sw Frank (Frank) | living in freedom | ch.1 | |
| Ma Almut (Almut) | nobleness | missing | |
| Sw Deva Lamberto (Lamberto) | divine, land | ch.2 | |
| Sw Deva Spider (Spider) | divine spider | ch.2 | |
| Ma Bhagvatta (Susan) | godliness | ch.2 | |
| Sw Deva Nirdosh (John) | divine, innocence | ch.2 | |
| Ma Anugito (Roswitha) | a small song | ch.7 | |
| Sw Prabhugit (Volker) | god's song | ch.7 | |
| Sw Premgit (David) | a love song | ch.7 | |
| Sw Anandgit (Katsuhiro) | a bliss song | ch.7 | |
| 28 | Ma Skye (Skye) | sky | ch.10 |
| Sw Denis (Denis) | wise / god of wine | ch.1 | |
| Sw Florian (Florian) | a flower of beauty | ch.5 | |
| Sw Jeroen (Jeroen) | holy | ch.2 | |
| Sw Werner (Werner) | a friend | ch.9 | |
| Sw Lazar (Lazar) | god is help | ch.2 | |
| Sw Deva Marcello (Marcello) | divine, warrior | ch.2 | |
| Sw Gyani (Karl Heinz) | the wise one | ch.8 | |
| Ma Priti (Louise) | love | ch.9 | |
| 29 | Sw Dhyan Rick (Rick) | meditation, a king | ch.10 |
| Sw Anand Malcolm (Malcolm) | bliss, a disciple of Saint Colomba | ch.1 | |
| Ma Dhyan Renate (Renate) | meditation, born anew | ch.10 | |
| Sw Anand Kabira (Jürgen) | bliss, the vast one / Sant Kabir | ch.5 | |
| Ma Deva Nutan (Ruth) | divine, newness | ch.2 | |
| Ma Deva Daso (Annet) | divine, servant | ch.6 | |
| Ma Devaprem (Claudia) | divine love | ch.8 | |
| Sw Devarup (Simon) | divine beauty | ch.1 |
