Jin Khoja Tin Paiyan ~ 07

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जिन खोजा तिन पाइयां ~ 07

event type discourse
date & time 15 Jun 1970 pm
location CCI Chambers, Bombay
language Hindi
audio Available, duration 1h 42min. Quality: not so good, strong noise during first 3 mins (under revision).
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shorttitle MIRAC109
notes
See In Search of the Miraculous, Vol 1 for a view on all editions. See also Talk:Jin Khoja Tin Paiyan (जिन खोजा तिन पाइयां).
Description of this chapter in The Mystic Experience (1977) #6: Text of a question and answer session held with Bhagwan in Bombay, India (Hindi). Chapter title: Shaktipat, Grace, and the Awakening of Kundalini"
In In Search of the Miraculous, Vol 1 (1984 / 1992) #9: the chapter title is: "Kundalini, Shaktipat and Grace"
synopsis
(Translated as in In Search of the Miraculous, Vol 1 on CD-ROM)
Question 1
How is intense breathing and the asking of the question "who am I?" related with the process of the awakening of the kundalini and its penetration into the various centers or chakras of the body?
Question 2
Is the effect of shaktipat short-lived or does it last long? And is a single event of shaktipat enough to take us to our journey's goal or is more than one needed?
Question 3
In case a contact with the medium is not maintained, does the effect of shaktipat wear off?
Question 4
Is there no danger that our basic capital of energy will wear off even if we keep bad company? Shall we not then fall down from our high place?
Question 5
Is there a difference between shaktipat and grace?
Question 6
How can shaktipat be planned if it happens only in an egoless state?
Question 7
Is the effect of direct grace on one who receives it everlasting? And can it lead one to the ultimate attainment?
Question 8
Is the sadhana or discipline of kundalini psychic or is it spiritual?
Question 9
In your earlier teaching of meditation you always asked us to be relaxed, still, silent and aware. And now in the course of intense breathing and asking "who am I?" you exhort us to bring all our efforts into it. But a seeker who practiced the earlier technique of meditation finds it difficult to put in sustained efforts. So which of the two techniques would be good for him?
Question 10
Explaining deep and fast breathing you said that it is a technique of transformation through the extremes -- that we have to go to the extreme point of tension so an absolute state of relaxation is achieved in the end. If it is so, should we take it to be a sadhana or discipline of tension?
Question 11
You talk of two systems of sadhana -- positive and negative. What is kundalini sadhana -- positive or negative?
Question 12
Why did not Buddha talk about the kundalini and the centers or chakras it passes through?
Question 13
Does it mean that the matter of the kundalini and the different chakras should be treated as secret and not recorded at all?


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