Live Zen ~ 01

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event type discourse & meditation
date & time 22 Apr 1988 pm
location Gautam the Buddha Auditorium, Pune
language English
audio Available, duration 1h 37min. Quality: good.
Osho leading meditation from 1:25:27.
Live music after the discourse.
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shorttitle LIVEZ01
Reader of the sutras and questions: Ma Prem Maneesha.
After discourse Osho leads Let-Go Meditation.
The sutra 1
Emperor Wu of Liang asked Bodhidharma, "What is the first principle of the holy teachings?"
Bodhidharma said, "Emptiness, no holiness."
"Who is this standing before me?"
"No knowing."
The emperor did not grasp his meaning. Thereupon Bodhidharma crossed the river and went to the land of Wei.
The emperor later spoke of this to Shiko who said, "Do you in fact know who this person is?"
The emperor said, "No knowing."
Shiko said, "This is the Bodhisattva Kannon, the bearer of the Buddha's heart seal."
The emperor was full of regret and wanted to send for Bodhidharma, but Shiko said, "It is no good sending a messenger to fetch him back. Even if all the people went, he would not turn back."
Setcho put it like this:
The holy teaching? "Emptiness!"
What is the secret here?
Again, "Who stands before me?"
"No knowing!"
Inevitable, the thorns and briars springing up;
Secretly, by night, he crossed the river.
All the people could not bring him back.
Now, so many years gone by.
Still Bodhidharma fills your mind -- in vain.
Stop thinking of him!
A gentle breeze pervades the universe.
The master looks around:
"Is the patriarch there? -- yes! Bring him to me, and he can wash my feet."
Question 1
Osho, this verse seems to contain the essence of Zen -- "no knowing." Is this why you have called Zen the only living religion?

The sutra 2
Bokushu asked a monk, "Where are you from?" the monk gave a `katsu' shout.
Bokushu said, "This old monk is shouted down by you."
The monk shouted again.
Bokushu said, "What about the third and fourth shouts?"
The monk stayed silent.
Bokushu hit the monk and said, "You empty-headed fool!"
Setcho put it like this:
Two shouts, three shouts;
The knowing one knows well;
If going hell-bent,
Both are blind.
Who is blind? Fetch him!
Expose him to the world!
Question 2
Osho, I also am an empty-headed fool -- I don't understand this sutra at all! Could you give the fifth shout?


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