Sermons in Stones ~ 03

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event type discourse
date & time 7 Nov 1986 pm
location Sumila, Juhu, Bombay
language English
audio Available, duration 2h 13min. Quality: good.
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shorttitle SERMON03
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Reader of the questions: Ma Prem Maneesha.
Question 1
Beloved Osho, something feels drastically wrong about the way society looks after -- or fails to look after -- the elderly.
You have spoken of the legalization of euthanasia for those who are so mentally or physically debilitated that they can hardly be said to be living at all. But what can be done for those who are not physically or mentally incapacitated, but are retired from their professions, and whose families have grown up?
In the past, families often felt obliged to have one or both parents live with them -- often with disastrous results. Abuse of the elderly, called 'granny-bashing' is an epidemic problem in America. Alternatively, the elderly are put into homes, where they are visited at weekends out of guilt and a sense of duty; or they are entirely neglected. The housing complexes provided for the elderly are often depressing and lonely, like a state of limbo between life and death.
It feels so ungracious and inhuman that society uses people and then casts them off into anonymity. Would you please comment?
Question 2
Beloved Osho, when you talk about the "art" of something, and the "science" of something else, what is the essential difference? Is it that an art can only be approached and appreciated intuitively, subjectively, while a science is approached and appreciated with the help of the mind and objectively?
Question 3
Beloved Osho, this is an excerpt from a conversation with Gurdjieff; these are his words: Eith ordinary love goes hate: I love this, I hate that. Today I love you; next week, or next hour, or next minute, I hate you. He who can really love, can be; he who can be, can do; he who can do, is. To know about real love, one must forget all about love and must look for direction. As we are, we cannot love. We love something because something in ourselves combines with another's emanations. We allow ourselves to be influenced. We project our feelings upon others. Anger begets anger. We receive what we give. Everything attracts or repels. There is the love of sex, which is ordinarily known as 'love' between man and woman -- when sex disappears a man and a woman no longer 'love' each other. There is love of feeling, which evokes the opposite, and makes people suffer. Later we will talk about conscious love.
Beloved Osho, can you please talk about conscious love, both in a man-woman relationship and in the master-disciple relationship?


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