Talk:Ajhun Chet Ganwar (अजहूं चेत गंवार)

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Chief among noteworthy queries and anomalies concerning this book must surely be the variety and impact of the various renderings of the title's component words, in both Roman characters and Devanagari. The possibilities found include Ajhun / Ajahoon / Ajhoon / Ajahun / Ajahu, Ganwar / Gawar, अजहूं / अजहुँ and गंवार / गवार. The champion in terms of variety is none other than the publisher, Diamond, which has a truly impressive array all on one page: अजहूं चेट गंवार on the cover image, अजहुँ चेत गवार in the text version and ajahu in the URL (which corresponds to neither अजहूं nor अजहुँ). What's a poor bibliographer to do?

And what's a poor book or audio searcher to do too, for that matter? Choice of search terms matters, since there is no magic term that finds anywhere near all significant results. Search engines have not figured out equivalencies very well at all for these uncommon words. After some study of the results of many searches, it seems that best results can be obtained by leaving out Ajhun and its varieties entirely and using quotes around Chet Gawar and then Chet Ganwar (both plus Osho). These two searches combined should give decent coverage. If you're only interested in audio, Ajhun Chet Gawar might be sufficient, and similarly Ajahu plus Osho for books; many booksellers seem to have followed Diamond's lead in that. In defense of them, "Ajhun" does seem to be not really a word but a proper name, thus a notion of standardization might not apply so strictly, and they might have just wanted to cover all the bases.

Technically, any version of the title that leaves out an "n" -- not pronounced fully but inserted to nasalize the preceding vowel -- is a mistake. The wiki has gone (for now) with the mistaken Gawar since it is much more common. Either way, its use in a "spiritual" title is unusual, "ganwar" or "ganvar" meaning roughly oaf or lout. And the wiki has gone with the cover's Devanagari version.

Couple things about the editions: A few bookseller sites make the page count in the 2012 edition to be 320 rather than 624. This is quite a difference and is likely a mistake, especially given the price. The other edition has only 320 pages, perhaps an abridged edition, half the discourses or something. It does sell for less.

And any deep researcher can also find an e-book version, likely based on an earlier edition. -- Sarlo (talk) 09:47, 15 July 2014 (PDT)


Name, roman spelling
on osho.com the audios are called "Ajahun Chet Ganwar". It that a reason to reconsider the roman spelling that we use? --Sugit (talk) 11:43, 9 May 2020 (UTC)