Talk:Amrit Kan (अमृत कण)
अनुक्रम (TOC from Shailendra's e-book):
--DhyanAntar 11:27, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
Is this a TOC ? I don't understand the relation with the "224 short texts" of the main page.
Yes. this is TOC. Shailendra's files includes 7 pages with those theme. Each theme includes one paragraph only = 9 short texts. Maybe 224 are number of sentences?
The file doesn't contain dates and other info. Maybe Shailendra can say more?--DhyanAntar 07:39, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Shailendra gave some new info:
- "Today I found 2015 edition of AMRIT KAN (physical book), which has 150 Quotations, which includes 60 Quotations from older edition, but in different sequence. These are from discourse series of Poona-1 days.
- 9 Quotations from oldest edition seems to be hand written in 1960-70 period."
More to be coming.--DhyanAntar 08:14, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Short view of two 1966 editions (JNS and JJS), 1968, 1972 shown that all 4 vooklets contain 9 chapters with 44 or 47 notes. I think it is because of different separation of them. In one edition no separation on notes (short texts) at all. And it is obvious that "224 short texts" is confusion with Naye Sanket (नये संकेत), which not contain chapters, but 225 short texts only.
Last editions should contain more short texts than first and early editions. Osho.com suggests 198 short texts.--DhyanAntar 15:59, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Numbers after chapter titles in the table below mean numbers of short texts in this chapter.
|1. सत्य : 10||1. सत्य : 10||1. सत्य : 10||1. सत्य|
|2. अहिंसा : 7||2. अहिंसा : 7||2. अहिंसा : 7||2. अहिंसा|
|3. अहंकार : 4||3. अहंकार : 4||3. अहंकार : 4||3. अहंकार|
|4. अपरिग्रह : 5||4. अपरिग्रह : 5||4. अपरिग्रह ** : 5||4. अपरिग्रह|
|5. अप्रमाद : 2||5. अप्रमाद : 2||5. अप्रमाद : 2||5. अप्रमाद|
|6. अज्ञान : 3||6. अज्ञान : 3||6. अज्ञान : 3||6. अज्ञान|
|7. आत्म विश्वास : 2||7. आत्म विश्वास : 2||7. आत्म विश्वास : 2||7. आत्म-विश्वास|
|8. स्वतंत्रता : 4||8. स्वतंत्रता : 4||8. स्वतंत्रता : 5
(#2 + #3 = #2 of prev.ed.; #4-5 = #3-4)
|9. धर्म : 7||9. धर्म : 7||9. धर्म : 9
(#6-8 = #6 of prev.ed.; #9 = #7)
- * No separation on short texts in this edition
- ** In TOC of 3rd ed. title for ch.4 is incorrect अपरिग्रद, but in text it is right.
Chapter titles of all editions are the same except small difference in ch.7.
1st and 2nd editions have 44 short texts, 3rd - 47. 4th ed. do not have separation on them - there is only chapters.
It needs to check Rebel and Divyansh editions: how many chost texts they have and what relation of them with previous 4 editions, what source of them. Prehaps it will need new event for new text (~ 02?).--DhyanAntar 17:18, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
My feeling is that Amrit Kan is comparable to Naye Sanket (नये संकेत), in the sense that it has been printed from manuscripts (which, for Amrit Kan, are not available up to now). Or the book may have been compiled under the guidance of Osho. I don't think it is compilation made entirely by editors. I can be wrong.
The book has first been published in Apr of 1966 and its annotation says (rough translation):
- Some golden sutras from the voice of Acharya Shri Rajneesh
- On the auspicious occasion of Lord Mahavir Jayanti, we are mentoring you some nectar-words of Acharya Shri Rajneesh. A short word of those who know life, suddenly lacks any direction that is blocked in life.
- Unfortunately, all our life directions are blocked. This accident has happened in the whole world. In times of such crisis. These few few words may be good for you, in the hope that you are going on your journey.
- Their reception in your heart is the success of our labor.
I checked first and seventh chapter and did not find a match with any other texts on the internet (e.g. Oshoganga).
It seems that the separation signs, such as big dots, are being used to separate "sutras". --DhyanAntar 06:28, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
On request-question to Shailendra if Amrit Kan was published from manuscripts, he gave the answer:
- The Original Amrit Kan was a small booklet of 20 pages only, containing 9 Quotations.
- Most probably handwritten by osho himself, because the style of language is the same as other manuscripts.
- Later editions contain more quotations selected by the editor, from hindi discourses.
- The Present edition has 9 original + 68 compiled quotations, which also includes quotations from the Series on Buddha - Es Dhammo Sanantano, the last discourse of this series was delivered on 10 Dec 1977 am.
Source of 68 quotations to be checked. --DhyanAntar 03:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Shailendra's PDF has 69 quotations. Why?--DhyanAntar 07:43, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
As far as i know: not translated or we don't know about it.--DhyanAntar 03:08, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- No photo of Osho or any other photos in Feb 1968 ed.--DhyanAntar 10:39, 16 February 2022 (UTC)