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| 241 || 1963-08-26-pm ||  || written to Sharda
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| 242 || 1963 ||  || year is the only date info supplied
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| 244 || 1963-11-19-am ||  || PS mentions Taaran Taran birthday celebration 23-25 Dec
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| 245 || 1963-11-09 ||  || "करनी" written above date, just means "doings", implications unclear
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| 246 || 1963-11-29 ||  ||
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| 249 || 1963-12-07-om ||  ||
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| 250 || 1964-02-21-am ||  || rowspan="2"| p 250 & 251 likely one letter written on two pages: no date, no sig on p 250, text runs to bottom, p 251 date but no greeting
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| 255 || 1964-01-17 ||  || short letter with lots of "........." mentions 23 Feb
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Revision as of 20:39, 4 December 2019

The Diamond 2002 edition is all we have so far of this book. And that may be all there ever has been. The production standards of the first pages (before p 60) are so different from the last pages (after p 60), it is hard to imagine a preceding "house" edition (JJK, RF or Rebel) that Diamond just reproduced whole (more or less), as they have done with most of their Osho books. One measure of the lack of professionalism in the book is the inclusion of contact details of someone in Mumbai, name, address and two phone numbers. This kind of thing is not seen in house editions.

Another indication that this is a Diamond-only edition is the name on the title page, which is not Osho but "Vikal Gautam". Vikal Gautam also writes a long introduction, after Keerti's short introduction, then come 48 pages of crowded, cramped text, which quotes Osho liberally but is clearly more than his letters. So it could easily be a personal initiative of this Vikal Gautam. Only a good reading by a real Hindi speaker will be able to sort out this first section, especially the part before p 25.

The book has no Table of Contents -- also very un-typical -- so this page is an attempt to organize one. Below are two tables, one for the first 60 pages, the other for the rest of the book, showing which dates of letters are found on which pages of that book, based on scans of the book. Eventually it is hoped that most of the contents can be linked to images of original letters. -- doofus-9 05:13, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

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Earlier pages

Table entries indicate where passages END, ie where Osho's signature or equivalent appears, with or without a date. ** = Likely too long to be one single letter, whether dated or not. Note also that information between letter content such as dates, location or signature, especially in the earlier pages, may be ambiguous as to which letter it applies to, as there may be no demarcating lines or spacing. Therefore, mistakes may be made. Links will be provided eventually to wiki images of letters, if and when.

Page # Letter Date Wiki
image?
22 undated **
25 1962-08-16 om **    
36 undated **
37 1960-11-22
37 undated
38 1960-11-29
40 1961-07-18
42 1961-07-18
(yes, same date)
44 undated, unsigned
44 undated, short
46 1962-12-12
47 1962-05-22 pm
49 1961-12-02
50 1962-05-09
52 1961-06-08
52 undated?
53 no year-06-30 om
53 undated
56 1961-01-03
57 undated
59 no year-mm-dd xm

Later pages

From here onward, all pages are in a new spacious format, max one letter per page.

Page # Letter Date Wiki
image
notes
60 undated
61 1960-10-05
62 1960-10-13
63 undated
64 1960-10-10
65 undated
66 1960-11-22 same date as P 37, different letter
67 1960-12-08
68 1960-12-15-pm
69 1960-12-15-om
70 1960-12-27
71 undated परिशिष्ट (appendix), 3 parts, to Shanta, Parakhji and Maan
72 1961-01-03
73 undated
74 1961-01-10
75 1961-01-18-xm
76 1961-01-26 in wiki book has transcribed year (as 1969) and other things incorrectly
but this is the same letter, written from Sagar
77 1961-01-30-om PS, to Maan
78 1961-01-30-am
79 1961-02-07-xm
80 1961-02-12 in wiki some transcription errors, day mentioned as ravivar (Sunday)
81 1961-02-22 PS, to Padm and Phadke Guruji
82 1961-02-22-xm
83 undated
84 1961-03-08-am
85 1961-03-19-pm p 85 & 86 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 85,
text runs all the way to bottom, p 86 short, no date, no greeting
86 undated
87 undated-pm
88 undated PS format -- to Shri Parakhji, then to Padm, then to Maan,
with upcoming dates mentioned at end 28 Mar - 2 Apr
89 1961-04-15-am
90 1961-04-25-om in wiki
91 1962-06-23 written on or sent from a train
92 1962-06-25-om
93 1962-01-25-om
94 1962-02-01-pm
95 1962-02-07
96 1962-02-11-am has a PS, salutation just plain "Maan"
97 1962-02-15-pm
98 1969-02-10-pm year may be mistaken, as on p 76
99 1962-02-24-pm
100 1962-03-02-om
101 1962-03-06-om addressed to Shri Parakh ji
102 1962-03-06
103 1962-03-08
104 1962-03-13
105 1962-03-16
106 1962-03-18-om PS mentions dates in April
107 1962-03-22-pm PS mentions dates in April
108 1962-03-25
109 1962-03-28
110 undated PS mentions dates in April
111 undated
112 1962-04-17
on tour (Ujjain)
p 112 & 113 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 112,
text runs all the way to bottom, p 113 short, no date, no greeting
113
114 1962-04-28 PS mentions dates in May
115 1962-04-25-xm
116 1962-04-28-am
117 1962-05-08
118 1962-05-11
on tour (Prayag)
p 118 & 119 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 118,
text runs all the way to bottom, p 119 short, no date, no greeting
119
120 1962-05-15
on tour (Kanpur)
p 120 & 121 likely one letter running to two pages:
sig bottom of p 120, p 121 only a short PS, no date, no greeting
121
122 1962-05-17-am PS mentions dates in later May
123 1962-05-18 on tour (Narsinhpur), no sig
124 undated no greeting, probably a continuation of 123.
PS mentions upcoming 10-day stay in Gadarwara
125 1962-05-22-om from Gadarwara
126 1962-05-15-am
from Gadarwara
p 126 & 127 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 126,
text runs all the way to bottom, p 127 short, no date, no greeting
127
128 1962-05-26-pm
from Gadarwara
p 128 & 129 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 128,
text runs all the way to bottom, p 129 short, no date, no greeting
129
130 1962-05-31
131 1962-06-06 p 131 & 132 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 131,
text runs all the way to bottom, p 132 short, no date, no greeting
132
133 1962-06-08-pm
134 1962-06-11
135 1962-06-14-pm p 135 & 136 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 135,
text runs all the way to bottom, p 136 short, no date, no greeting
136
137 1962-06-17
138 1962-06-21 p 138 & 139 likely one letter running to two pages: sig is on p 138,
but PS runs to bottom, p 139 short, no date, no greeting, no sig
139
140 1962-06-24-am
141 1962-06-25
142 1962-06-27
143 1962-07-28-am
144 1962-07-29-am
145 1962-07-30-xm
146 1962-08-01
147 1962-08-04
148 1962-08-07-xm p 148 & 149 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 148, text
runs to bottom, p 149 text very short, no greeting, PS dated separately
149 1962-08-08-om
150 1962-08-14 on tour (Narsinhpur)
151 1962-08-17-om PS mentions event Aug 31
152 1962-08-26 PS mentions event Aug 31
153 1962-08-27
154 1962-09-05-pm
155 1962-09-09-pm
156 1962-09-14
157 1962-09-21 same date as p 169, different letter
158 1962-09-22 same date as p 166, different letter
159 1962-09-24 p 159 & 160 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 159,
text runs to bottom, p 160 text short, no greeting, no date, PS
160
161 1962-09-25
162 1962-09-27
163 1962-09-29 PS has address & phone in Bombay for "Tarachand Seth, Kothari";
same date as p 168, different letter
164 1962-10-12
165 1962-10-28
166 1962-09-22 same date as p 158, different letter
167 1962-10-23-am
168 1962-09-29 same date as p 163, from Gadarwara, PS says he has "come home" from 24th to 31st
169 1962-09-21 same date as p 157, different letter, from Gadarwara, PS mentions event on 31st
170 1962-11-01 short PS is dated 1962-11-02
171 1962-11-04-pm
172 1962-11-09
173 1962-11-12 noted as "purnima", full moon
174 1962-11-18-pm p 174 & 175 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 174,
text runs to bottom, p 175 no greeting, no date
175
176 1962-11-29
177 1962-03-24-om wrong month?
178 1962-11-27
179 1962-11-30
180 1962-12-03
181 1962-12-08
182 1962-12-11
183 undated solely an events report, upcoming Dec 22+, arrived in Satna Dec 14
184 1962-12-15 from Chhatarpur (MP)
185 1963-01-04-pm p 185 & 186 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 185,
text runs to bottom, p 186 no greeting, no date
186
187 1963-01-08-am p 187 & 188 likely one letter on two pages: sig on p 187, PS one incomplete line,
p 188 no greeting, no date, no sig. Last line (offset) offers blessings to Shanta
188
189 1963-01-10
190 1963-01-16 p 190 & 191 likely one letter on two pages: no sig on p 190, text runs
to bottom, p 191 no greeting, no date. PS mentions events coming Jan 29 - Feb 2
191
192 1963-01-21
193 p 193 & 194 likely one letter on two pages: no sig on p 193, no date, text runs to
bottom, p 194 one line then date, sig + PS (mentions leaving for Udaipur Jan 27)
194 1963-01-25
195 undated p 195 & 196 likely one undated letter on two pages: no sig on p 195, text runs to bottom, p 196 one line then sig + PS (mentions Feb 3)
196
197 1963-02-04
198 1963-02-06 book has year as 1962, presumed mistaken
199 1963-02-11-am
200, 201 1963-02-17 in wiki p 200-201 one letter: no sig on p 200, text runs to bottom, p 201 no date, no greeting, PS mentions Mar 2-3 events, + address and phone of Sundarlal Jain. ALERT: Letter image has a different date, 19 Feb!
202, 203 1963-02-23-pm in wiki p 202-203 one letter: no date or sig on p 202, text runs to bottom, p 203 text starts in middle of sentence, has date, no greeting, no PS
204, 205 1963-03-02-am in wiki p 204-205 one letter, written from Delhi: no sig on p 204, text runs to bottom, p 205 no date, no greeting, PS mentions Mar 8 event
206 1963-03-06-om in wiki
207 1963-03-12-pm in wiki
208 1963-03-18 in wiki
209 1963-03-22-xm in wiki
210 1963-03-27 in wiki
211 1963-03-28-am in wiki
212 1963-04-03 in wiki
213 1963-04-07 in wiki written from Indore, very short
214 1963-04-12-om p 214 & 215 likely one letter on two pages: no sig on p 214, text runs to bottom, p 215 no date, no greeting
215
216 1963-04-18-xm
217 1963-04-23-am
218 1963-05-16-om
219 1963-05-24-om written from Gadarwara, p 219 & 220 likely one letter on two pages: no sig on p 219, text runs to bottom, p 220 no date, no greeting
220
221 1963-05-26
222 1963-06-03
223 1963-06-04
224 1963-06-12
225 1963-06-14
226 1963-06-16
227 1963-06-20
228 1963-06-25-am
229 1963-07-02-am book has year as 1993, presumed an error
230 1963-07-04-om
231 1963-07-16-pm p 231 & 232 likely one letter on two pages: no sig on p 231, text runs to bottom, p 232 no date, no greeting
232
233 1963-07-25 written on tour from Nepanagar MP, p 233 & 234 likely one long letter on two pages: no sig on p 233, text runs to bottom, p 234 no date, no greeting; PS mentions events 3-5 Aug + contact info for Prafulla Chandra
234
235 1963-08-11-om
236 1963-08-15
237 1963-08-18-pm p 237 & 238 likely one letter written on tour from Indore on two pages: date but no sig on p 237, text runs to bottom, p 238 no greeting
238
239 1963-08-28-om p 239 & 240 likely one letter written on tour from Damoh (MP) on two pages: date but no sig on p 239, text runs to bottom, p 240 no greeting
240
241 1963-08-26-pm written to Sharda
242 1963 year is the only date info supplied
243 1963-09-15
244 1963-11-19-am PS mentions Taaran Taran birthday celebration 23-25 Dec
245 1963-11-09 "करनी" written above date, just means "doings", implications unclear
246 1963-11-29
247 1963-12-01
248 1963-12-16-am
249 1963-12-07-om
250 1964-02-21-am p 250 & 251 likely one letter written on two pages: no date, no sig on p 250, text runs to bottom, p 251 date but no greeting
251
252 1964-01-05
253 1964-01-31-am
254 undated
255 1964-01-17 short letter with lots of "........." mentions 23 Feb
256 1964-01-29
257 1964-08-27 PS includes address of Ramanlal C Shah