Talk:From Bhagwan to Osho: Publications table

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A number of books' months of publication have been updated. The whole seven-vol boxed set from Dogen to Isan have been assigned a month, where previously they had none; based on ISBN searches, a number of sites reported Sep 1989. Though they are not always reliable, they are in this case at least consistent with each other and Sep 89 fits well. And the five-vol boxed set similarly was found to be not Sep but Jul 89. (For both sets, only sample searches were used, assuming togetherness, so it was Original Man and Hyakujo.)

The books lists at the back of each vol have some inferential info too. The five-set and seven-set books both list each other, meaning the seven-set was in the pipeline enough to be anticipated. And neither of them lists No Mind, or anything after it, so it clearly came after, though not long, and it was well in the pipeline. And neither set lists Kyozan, even though it came immediately after the seven-set in terms of dates talks given.

And No Mind's books list at the end has both the five-set and the seven-set, and it lists Kyozan and almost all the books that came after it, including Zen Manifesto, but not One Seed or Yakusan. -- doofus-9 (talk) 18:30, 8 June 2015 (UTC)



why is the table split in two ? or better, what exactly is the criteria for the books placement (*1st or 2nd part) ?--Rudra (talk) 02:58, 9 June 2015 (UTC)


The first table tries to track what happened in a chronological order during the lectures. So the column First lecture date is the most important (only important!) sequence.

The second table adds information about what happened with the naming publication-wise, with books published during the name-change, but spoken earlier.

Hmm, now that we can sort on any column, maybe we could merge them into one. Would need all Lecture dates. Sarlo, what do you think, one or two tables? --Sugit (talk) 09:04, 9 June 2015 (UTC)


Can we please upload the missing label images. thanks.--Rudra (talk) 02:58, 9 June 2015 (UTC)


What I uploaded are stickers only. Of some other ones, there are no stickers, these are only printed in the book. I believe Sarlo has one more sticker, he said he would scan it in due time. Do you want scans of the printed stuff too? Then we have to somehow make clear what's a sticker and what is printed. --Sugit (talk) 06:48, 9 June 2015 (UTC)


yes, i think we should insert scans of all different versions to back up our claims in black on white. --Rudra (talk) 07:56, 9 June 2015 (UTC)


My sticker is now uploaded and entered in the table. I expanded the "Explanations" table to four columns so that stickers now have their own column. I think the differences between them are now clear.

The way they were easy to get confused might illustrate why it's good to have two separate tables above for the books and their pub dates. The stickers serve different functions from the published-in-the-book explanations, they deal with different books, those with BSR as author, the old books which need an explanation. In fact, if any remain unsold, they still need an explanation. New books do not.

Likewise, there is a difference between the new first editions and the second editions published with new names and it's good to keep them separate. Merging them will make a very unwieldy table which will have sorting problems. One such problem arises from those second table members with uncertain pub months. And the new first editions, in the first table, may have a special interest to some people, the progression of their lecture dates compared to pub dates etc, which will tend to get lost in a larger merged table. -- doofus-9 (talk) 18:45, 9 June 2015 (UTC)



Sugit,

please refer to this cover :
http://www.sannyas.org/images/0/03/Oti-03-07.jpg

your table at the end states the same header "The Real Poisoners of Osho" but on Vol 2, issue 19.

what's going on here ?? --Rudra (talk) 23:31, 19 June 2015 (UTC)


My mistake Rudra. I indeed have that Vol 3 nr 7 and had it mixed up with Vol 2 nr 19, which has a completely different headline "Sannyas businesses Worldwide / Green Party Blues". I have removed that part, as that headline is not relevant. --Sugit (talk) 07:33, 20 June 2015 (UTC)