Talk:Hari Om Tatsat (हरि ॐ तत्सत्)

About the number of discourses, 30 is how many are in the original English book. The G**gle Books version appears to have fewer chapters than that, perhaps only half as many. The whole TOC was not available but that's where it was heading. So some editing has happened, reduction of unsuitable topics, combination? We await reports from fluent Hindi readers.

Oh, and the other cover image was associated with the same ISBN but no pub date mentioned, whereas the large image did go with 2003. -- Sarlo (talk) 23:37, 21 May 2014 (PDT)

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That was then and this is now: Now we can be somewhat confident that there are only 13 chapters/discourses, because we have an image of the actual hard copy TOC. And we have another clue in what went on in a parallel series, Om Mani Padme Hum (ॐ मणि पद्मे हुम्), which was based on a similar English series and had only nine chapters, many of which were not whole chapters but just whole questions. As Hari Om and some of its chapters are so short, we can assume that happened here as well.

And Shailendra, who supplied the scans, has also come up with "sources" for each chapter, shown as dates below in the TOC. The chapters are indeed answers to selected questions, with one discourse even having three Q&A's selected.

TOC:

1. जीवित होना ही प्रबुद्ध होना है . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1 -- 17 Jan 1988 pm

2. नयी मनुष्यता की शुरुआत . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 -- 19 Jan 1988 pm

3. पूरे जगत को प्रेम से भर दो . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24 -- 23 Jan 1988 am

4. धार्मिक जीवन और सौंदर्य बोध . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 32 -- 04 Feb 1988 pm

5. ईश्वर : मानव चेतना की दरिद्रता . . . . . . . . . . . . . 44 -- 21 Jan 1988 am

6. ध्यान : एक आंतरिक तीर्थयात्रा . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 53 -- 24 Feb 1988 pm

7. फैलाओ प्रेम की लहर . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 66 -- 21 Jan 1988 am

8. जीवन कोई प्रश्न नहीं, खेल है . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .73 -- 22 Jan 1988 pm

9. मन गति में जीता है . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .76 -- 18 Jan 1988 pm

10. लतीफे तुम्हें निर्भार करते हैं . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 84 -- 29 Jan 1988 am

11. आध्यात्मिक निकटता : हृदय से हृदय का मिलन . 86 -- 03 Feb 1988 pm

12. मुद्राओं का सौंदर्य . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .98 -- 21 Jan 1988 am

13. कुतूहल एक बौद्धिक खुजलाहट है . . . . . . . . . . . .102 -- 19 Jan 1988 am

These source dates were printed in the Hindi book. Shailendra spotted a mistake in one, ch 11, which was printed as 02 Mar 1988, and identified the talk as coming from 03 Feb. Since it was likely that this was a transposing of numbered days and months -- 02/03 for 03/02 -- it seems unlikely that other similar mistakes were made, as they would be fairly easy to notice. -- doofus-9 07:34, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Corrected "तो" into "दो" in ch.3, "निर्भर" into "निर्भार" in ch.10 and "मिलना" into "मिलन" according TOCs of two editions (1989, 2016).

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Shailendra has since passed on a more detailed reckoning of what is what in the Hindi translation "booklet". For a bonus, he also shared the questioner's names. It goes like this:

Hindi ch #	Date & Time	Question	Event
1	17 Jan 88 pm Q 1	I HAVE HEARD YOU SAY, HARI OM TAT SAT: THE DIVINE SOUND -- THAT IS THE TRUTH. WHEN YOU SPEAK I HEAR THE SOUND OF TRUTH RESONATING IN ME, YET I AM NOT ENLIGHTENED. HOW IS IT THAT I CAN RECOGNIZE THAT WHICH I HAVEN'T REALIZED? -- Maneesha	Hari Om Tat Sat ~ 01
2	19 Jan 88 pm Q 1	AT VARIOUS TIMES I HAVE HEARD YOU DESCRIBE YOUR WORK AS "AN EXPERIMENT TO PROVOKE GOD" AND "A MODEL CITY FOR THE FUTURE." THEN THERE WAS THE WORLD TOUR. IN THE PRESENT CONTEXT OF ACCELERATING GLOBAL CRISIS, HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE YOUR WORK NOW, AND WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THOSE WHO HAVE GATHERED AROUND YOU HERE? -- Mutribo	Hari Om Tat Sat ~ 05
3	23 Jan 88 am Q 2	MANY OF US WHO HAVE BEEN WITH YOU FOR SOME TIME ARE EXPERIENCING A DEEPENING OF SILENCE, STILLNESS AND JOY WITHIN. WITH A TREMENDOUS GRATITUDE TO YOU ALSO COMES A SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY TO EXISTENCE TO PRESERVE THIS GIFT OF LIFE AND CONSCIOUSNESS. TO REALIZE YOUR VISION OF GLOBAL TRANSFORMATION AND THE NEW MAN, IT SEEMS THAT MEDITATION, LOVE, COMMITMENT AND ACTION ARE ALL NECESSARY. SOMETIMES IT FEELS DIFFICULT TO MOVE INTO ACTIVITY WHILE STILL REMAINING SILENT AND MEDITATIVE. WOULD YOU SPEAK TO US ABOUT WU-WEI, ACTION FROM INACTION? -- Anand Zeno	Hari Om Tat Sat ~ 12, q.2
4	4 Feb 88 pm Q 1	A FRIEND TOLD US THAT SHE ONCE HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU WANT US TO BECOME ENLIGHTENED IN THE MOST AESTHETIC WAY POSSIBLE. WILL YOU SPEAK ON THE AESTHETICS OF CONSCIOUSNESS? HAVE YOU EVER SPOKEN OF ANYTHING ELSE? -- Vadan and Iti	Hari Om Tat Sat ~ 20
5	21 Jan 88 pm Q 1	WHAT IS EXISTENCE? IS IT SOMETHING LIKE WHAT PEOPLE CALL GOD? -- Sampurna	Hari Om Tat Sat ~ 09, q.1
6	24 Feb 88 pm Q 1	OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS I'VE SPENT MANY WEEKS IN ISOLATION AT DHARMAGIRI, PRACTICING VIPASSANA MEDITATION AS TAUGHT BY S.N. GOENKA. I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED SUCH PAIN, SUFFERING AND DOUBT EVER BEFORE. PRESENTLY I FEEL VERY EXHAUSTED, TIRED, YEARNING DEEPLY TO CONNECT WITH MY HEART. MY INTEREST IN THE MEDITATION PRACTICE IS PASSING AWAY. BELOVED MASTER, IS THIS TYPE OF MEDITATION PRACTICE NECESSARY? IS IT HELPFUL? CAN AWARENESS AND CELEBRATION ALONE PIERCE TO THE DEPTH OF THE MIND AND DISSOLVE THE DARKEST NIGHTS? -- Sagaresh	Hari Om Tat Sat ~ 28
7	21 Jan 88 am Q 1	THE OTHER MORNING, DISCOURSE LEFT ME FEELING TERRIFIED AND DESPERATE: DESPERATE TO SAVE THIS INCREDIBLE, BEAUTIFUL PLANET, AND TERRIFIED BECAUSE THE ODDS AGAINST US SEEM SO HIGH AND I FEEL SO INSIGNIFICANT, AND HELPLESS TO DO ANYTHING! THE ONLY THING I CAN SEE TO DO IS TO BE HERE WITH YOU AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, NOURISHING MY CONSCIOUSNESS AND SUPPORTING YOUR VISION. IS THERE ANY MORE THAT CAN BE DONE? -- Nayana	Hari Om Tat Sat ~ 08, q.1
8	22 Jan 88 pm Q 2	IF THERE IS NO CERTAIN MEANING IN LIFE, WHY THIS INTRINSIC LOGIC OF LIVING THOUSANDS OF LIVES UNTIL UNDERSTANDING TRANSFORMS ONE TOWARDS ENLIGHTENMENT, AND THEN INTO A NON-PHYSICAL EXISTENCE AND THEN... AND THEN... THERE SEEMS TO BE NO END -- ETERNITY? IF THERE IS NO ONE OR NOTHING WHO OR WHICH CREATES THE WORLD OF A THOUSAND MYSTIC COLORS, WHY AM I HERE? I DID NOT ASK TO JOIN IN THIS GAME, OR DID I? CAN'T THERE BE ONLY A NON-EXISTENTIAL NOTHINGNESS WITHOUT ANYTHING AND WITHIN NOTHING? -- Amrita Jayesh	Hari Om Tat Sat ~ 11, q.2
9	18 Jan 88 pm Q 1	WHEN YOU SAID LAST NIGHT THAT I AM ENLIGHTENED, IT REALLY FREAKED ME OUT. IT LOOKS LIKE I'M MUCH MORE AT EASE WITH BEING UNENLIGHTENED AND SEARCHING FOR IT, RATHER THAN JUST BEING ENLIGHTENED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE QUESTION IS BUT I FEEL I NEED A SLAP TO WAKE ME UP! -- Niyama	Hari Om Tat Sat ~ 03
10**	23 Jan 88 am Q 1**	ARE ALL JOKES IRRATIONAL? -- Devageet	Hari Om Tat Sat ~ 12, q.1
11**	3 Feb 88 pm Q 1**	IN THE OLD DAYS IN BOMBAY, EVEN THOUGH I FELT PHYSICALLY SO CLOSE TO YOU, YOU WERE SO FAR AWAY. NOW SITTING HERE WITH YOU IN BUDDHA HALL, WHERE THOUSANDS OF US MOVE AROUND YOU -- COMPARED TO THE ROOM IN BOMBAY -- I FEEL YOU SO INTIMATELY AND PERSONALLY, LIKE I NEVER DID BEFORE. BELOVED MASTER, HAVE YOU DROPPED SERIOUS POLITICAL TALKS AND BECOME MORE INTIMATE AND JUICY? YOUR SMILE IS HAPPENING MORE OFTEN THAN EVER. PLEASE COMMENT. -- Anand Murti	Hari Om Tat Sat ~ 18
12	21 Jan 88 am Q 3	YOUR GESTURES MOVE ME MORE DEEPLY THAN YOUR DISCOURSES. YOUR GRACE AND BEAUTY TOUCH ME EVEN MORE THAN YOUR SILENCE. BELOVED MASTER, WIGGLE A TOE OR GIVE US A WINK. -- Prem Sushil	Hari Om Tat Sat ~ 08, q.3
13	19 Jan 88 am Q 2	COULD YOU PLEASE SAY SOMETHING ABOUT CURIOSITY? I OFTEN HAVE EXPERIENCED IT AS SOMETHING WHICH MAKES ME FEEL ALIVE AND EXCITED. BUT WHEN I TRIED TO MEDITATE, IT TURNED OUT TO BE A DISTURBANCE. AND NOW, WHEN I SIT IN YOUR PRESENCE, GETTING MORE AND MORE SILENT, I DON'T WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ANYMORE. -- Anand Preeti	Hari Om Tat Sat ~ 04, q.2

** = As it happens, a second wrong date has turned up in the Hindi edition, for ch 10 (ch 11 was already identified as a transposed date). Correct dates are above; printed in the Hindi book are, respectively 29 Jan am and 2 Mar pm. -- doofus-9 06:00, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

And with the corrected date for ch 10, we can see that there are now only ten source discourses for this translation's thirteen chapters. -- updated 16:38, 8 November 2017 (UTC)