Talk:Jo Ghar Bare Aapna (जो घर बारे आपना)
Of the eight discourses, two are very short, ~10 minutes, and two others are ~30 min. Hence, audio sites have not even given them them all titles. Only these two could be found with titles:
- 1. जीवन के रहस्य की कुंजी
- 8. योग: कर्म की कुशलता
Be that as it may, the new improved offering, only at osho.com, now has all eight titles available, and at decent lengths, the shortest talk being now 40 min. They are:
- 1. जीवन के रहस्य की कुंजी
- 2. ध्यान के सम्बन्ध में
- 3. संकल्प : संघर्ष का विसर्जन
- 4. अमृत का सागर
- 5. ध्यान का अनिवार्य तत्त्व : होश
- 6. यही है मार्ग प्रभु का
- 7. शक्ति के साथ आनंद भी
- 8. योग: कर्म की कुशलता
-- doofus-9 22:15, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Replaced हैं by है in 6th title according to Shailendra's remark.--DhyanAntar 16:15, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
And now some Dates and Places have arrived, courtesy of Jagdish. He has the first seven talks at a meditation camp in Ajol at the end of Aug 1970, which fits very well with a mystery camp in Ajol at that time on the Camps page. This camp, less than a month before Osho started giving sannyas in Manali, was definitely a precursor to that event and in fact Ageh Bharti reports that Osho told Sw Chaitanya Bharti prior to the Ajol camp to bring some saffron clothes to it. In the event, sannyas was not introduced then, but it was in the air.
Jagdish says the camp was called "Sanskar Teerth". His dates (image below) are one day off from Ageh's, whose dates are truncated but fit well with another event widely reported as immediately following the Ajol camp, so we will adopt his basic camp format but bump the dates back one day in the text version below to conform with the general consensus. None of the other sources have connected Jo Ghar with this Ajol camp, or with anything for that matter, and since its eighth discourse is not part of the camp, this is another great benefit.
- 1. Aug 28 1970 pm
- 2. Aug 29 1970 am
- 3. Aug 29 1970 pm
- 4. Aug 30 1970 am
- 5. Aug 30 1970 pm
- 6. Aug 31 1970 am
- 7. Aug 31 1970 om
- 8. Nov 12 1970 pm in Mumbai
Note also that the time of day of the last talk of the camp (#7) has also been changed, to conform with Ageh's report and the need to give another talk in Ahmedabad that evening, which became ch 1 of Hasiba Kheliba Dhariba Dhyanam (हसिबा खेलिबा धरिबा ध्यानम्). And Madhu and Chinmay, mentioned by Jagdish above, were both among the first group who took sannyas in the camp at Manali in Sep 1970, and Madhu was an organizer of the Jo Ghar camp at Ajol, so that ties all that together. -- doofus-9 05:53, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- And an update /clarification: word is in from Anuragi that Sanskar Teerth was a school in Ajol and Madhu was the principal and a trustee, and that all three known camps in Ajol were at Sanskar Teerth. -- doofus-9 19:43, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Last day of the camp according Jagdish is 30 Aug. It was Sunday. As Shailendra said camps were given by Osho in weekends (Saturdays-Sundays).
In Blessed Days With Osho Ageh says:
- "So, what there was in His mind, I could not gauze. But, apparently the idea of giving sannyas came to Osho in Ludhiana after the disturbance. Because, Harish (later Swami Chaitanya Bharti) told me in Delhi way back from Ludhiana to Delhi, Osho inquired him, “You get a pair of saffron colored ‘Kurt a and Lungi’ stitched and bring it in Aajol Meditation camp (which was to be held on 28, 29, 30 August, 1970 at Aajol, near Ahmedabad, Gujarat)’."
- ...
- At last, during the last evening of the camp...
- ...
- Next day, little before the end of the camp in the noon, I met Osho and apprised him that Mrs. Mishra sought me to stay with them and if I stay, I may go mad myself.
- Osho told, 'No, you need not stay. After the camp is over, stay for a short period. After that tell Dharmishtha that I have told you to be present in the meeting arranged by the Doctors's Association in Ahmedabad in the evening. So well her and come to Ahmedabad.'
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- "Finally, the meditation camp was over. People have departed... Osho had already asked me to come for the evening lecture at Ahmedabad. So I took leave of Dharmishtha Ben and went to Ahmedabad.
- "On arrival at Ahmedabad, I kept my luggage at the residence of Jayanti Bhai (later Swami Satya Bodhi Satva) and went straight to attend the discourse because Osho and Jayanti Bhai had already gone. After attending Osho’s address to prominent doctors of Ahmedabad, we had dinner at Jayanti Bhai’s place and left for Bombay.
- "I would like to give a few more glimpses of Aajol camp.
- "In the evenings, Tratak meditation was done..."
Above quotes from chapter "Mishraji's meditation". Thus, Ageh confirmed dates 28-30 Aug and that last meeting was in evening.
Audio of ch.7, this is last meeting of Ajol camp, contains 30 min tratak meditation. It is evening according above quote of Ageh.
I will correct Ajol dates. Hasiba #1 was on next day after the camo as stated by Jagdish. I believe Sarlo's view based on incomplete text in google book.--DhyanAntar 06:41, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
