Talk:Sadhana Path (साधना पथ)

If one cruises around in the Indian audio sites, sooner or later the oddness of Sadhana Path's aggregations becomes evident. There are listings for "Sadhana Path - Antar Yatra," "Sadhana Path - Path Ki Khoj" and "Sadhana Path - Prabhu Ki Pagdandiyan," and have long been. As info about the books becomes more available, the picture becomes clearer.

another edition of first type, click to enlarge

As mentioned on the main page, Sadhana Path's four published book forms (if not more) in Hindi are:

1. As itself, the original book with just the discourses from Ranakpur

2. As a compilation of two books, the original and Path Ki Khoj (पथ की खोज)

3. As a compilation of three books, the original, Antaryatra (अन्तर्यात्रा) and Prabhu Ki Pagdandiyan (प्रभु की पगडंडियां).

4. As a compilation of all four books mentioned above.

The first needs not much elaboration. Obviously, this is the form put out by Jeevan Jagruti Kendra, and likely in other editions since. Its chapters are the first fourteen in the combination books.

When we get to English translations, it is a bit more complicated but this does not affect the Hindi versions. The Perfect Way, a later translation, has only ten chapters, and an early note in this wiki suggested that in Path of Self-Realization, Ranakpur talks were augmented by talks from "a subsequent camp in Ajol", implying that Sadhana Path might also include material from Ajol. But close examination of the hard copy of the original PoSR has revealed this notion to be unfounded, with the four-chapter difference accounted for by PoSR's eight short evening chapters getting compacted into four in Perfect Way. Way lengthy exploration of all this at PoSR's Talk page.

The second form above is the one put out by Diamond in 2004, and likely in other editions before and after. Its TOC indicates that the first 14 chapters are identical to those of the original. There is only one more chapter and that is titled Path Ki Khoj. That chapter is much longer than any of the others, comprising about a third of the whole book. It appears that its seven chapters have been, at least in this edition, presented as one. Thus, this form could be said to have either 15 or 21 chapters. Path Ki Khoj has its own complicated story, which will be told on its own page. The Diamond edition is quite short, especially considering that 1/3 of it is taken up with Path Ki Khoj, leaving only 112 pages or so for fourteen chapters worth of SP, but this is likely a matter of larger pages and smaller print.

The third form is that of the 2013 OMI and earlier editions, with a full-blown 29 chapters, with original book title names preceding each section:

साधना पथ (Sadhana Path) 1. साधना की भूमिका 2. ध्यान में कैसे होना 3. धर्म, संन्यास, अमूर्च्छा और ध्यान 4. रुको, देखो और होओ 5. नीति नहीं, धर्म-साधना 6. नीति, समाज और धर्म 7. ‘स्व’ की अग्नि परीक्षा 8. सत्य: स्वानुभव की साधना 9. मन का अतिक्रमण 10. ध्यान, जीवन और सत्य 11. निर्विषय-चेतना का जागरण 12. सत्य-अनुभूति में बाधाएं 13. साधक का पाथेय 14. साधना और संकल्प . .

अंतर्यात्रा (Antar Yatra) 1. साधना की पहली सीढ़ी: शरीर 2. मस्तिष्क से हृदय, हृदय से नाभि की ओर 3. नाभि-यात्रा: सम्यक आहार-श्रम-निद्रा 4. मन-साक्षात्कार के सूत्र 5. ज्ञान के भ्रम से छुटकारा 6. विश्वास-मात्र से छुटकारा 7. हृदय-वीणा के सूत्र 8. ‘मैं’ से मुक्ति प्रभु की पगडंडियां (Prabhu Ki Pagdandiyan) 1. वर्तमान में जीएं; मौन, नासाग्र-दृष्टि 2. प्रभु-मंदिर का पहला द्वार: करुणा 3. मौन, उपेक्षा, करुणा और ध्यान 4. प्रभु-मंदिर का दूसरा द्वार: मैत्री 5. हिंसा, अहंकार; प्रेम और ध्यान 6. प्रभु-मंदिर का तीसरा द्वार: मुदिता 7. प्रभु-मंदिर का चौथा द्वार: उपेक्षा

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OW offers with its free mp3s Sadhana Path Antaryatra (8), Sadhana Path Path Ki Khoj (1) and Sadhana Path Prabhu Ki Pagdandiyan (7). But no Sadhana Path sec. Anyone an idea if these might have yet another title? --Sugit (talk) 17:51, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

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Not sure what you mean by "Sadhana Path sec", but if it's the plain Sadhana Path from Ranakpur, it seems likely to me that it would be called Sadhana Path if it were available and so for some reason it is not available. Ranakpur was recorded, so what could have happened to it is a bit of a mystery. -- doofus-9 (talk) 22:50, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

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So those 14 Sadhana Path discourses are missing in the OW free mp3s offer then.

(Sorry, I forgot that sec (only) is not English. Holland was colonized by Napoleon...)

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AFAIK, they are missing everywhere, including the OW audiobook and Tao Vision offerings. (Ah. "Sec" is a French word meaning "dry" in my usage, so that could be adapted to "only".

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The fourth form of SP's publication only became known to the wiki with the recent arrival of scans from the 1989 Rebel edition. The difference between it and the third form is a simple insertion of the whole of Path Ki Khoj as Ch 15, before Antar Yatra and Pagdandiayan, with TOC otherwise the same as above, though without the original books' names.

Mysteriously, the 1989 edition seems not to have significantly more pages than the 2013, even with the fairly long Path Ki Khoj added. Regarding the colors of the images, the bluish pub info page came separately from the others, apparently with different scanner settings.

And about the explanation of Osho's name change, this version is not, as it happens, the earliest known one thus far in Hindi, but it is as early as the earliest known ones in English. And it is only one of two with the signature of someone "of authority", in this case Neelam. See From Bhagwan to Osho: Publications table for a survey of these explanations as presented in Osho's books. -- doofus-9 20:56, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

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TOC from 1989 edition (the same as Shailendra's e-book):

1. साधना की भूमिका
2. ध्यान में कैसे होना
3. धर्म, संन्यास, अमूर्च्छा और ध्यान
4. रुको, देखो और होओ
5. नीति नहीं, धर्म-साधना
6. नीति, समाज और धर्म
7. स्व की अग्नि परीक्षा
8. सत्यः स्वानुभव की साधना
9. मन का अतिक्रमण
10. ध्यान, जीवन और सत्य
11. निर्विषय-चेतना का जागरण
12. सत्य-अनुभूति में बाधाएं
13. साधक का पाथेय
14. साधना और संकल्प
15. पथ की खोज
16. साधना की पहली सीढ़ी : शरीर
17. मस्तिष्क से हृदय, हृदय से नाभि की ओर
18. नाभि-यात्रा : सम्यक आहार-श्रम-निद्रा
19. मन-साक्षात्कार के सूत्र
20. ज्ञान के भ्रम से छुटकारा
21. विश्वास-मात्र से छुटकारा
22. हृदय-वीणा के सूत्र
23. मैं से मुक्ति
24. वर्तमान में जीएं; मौन, नासाग्र-दृष्टि
25. प्रभु-मंदिर का पहला द्वार : करुणा
26. मौन, उपेक्षा, करुणा और ध्यान
27. प्रभु-मंदिर का दूसरा द्वारः मैत्री
28. हिंसा, अहंकार; प्रेम और ध्यान
29. प्रभु-मंदिर का तीसरा द्वार : मुदिता
30. प्रभु-मंदिर का चौथा द्वार : उपेक्षा

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Diamond edition has 15 chapters, which are the same as first 15 out of 30 of Rebel's 1989 edition.--DhyanAntar 13:21, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

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I am not clear about two different publisher names - Jeevan Jagriti Kendra and Jeevan Jagruti Kendra (incorrect transliteration?).

G**gle translate says: जीवन जागृति केंद्र - jeevan jaagrti kendr. --DhyanAntar 05:45, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

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In the above G**gle Translate, there are three (3) differences from our wiki standard practice with these three words. And there are reasons, but we will dwell on just the one regarding your question.

The letter "r" in the English (Latin/Roman) alphabet represents a huge variety of different thingies in Devanagari. The one in जागृति, when extracted from its context, is ृ. It is a diacritic (symbol) which attaches to a consonant-like thing and is called a "vocalic R". It is pronounced in a way that only Hindi and related Indian languages use, and is like a vowel.

The current G**gle Transl(iter)ate way of dealing with it is a simple "r", but in ordinary use, it is most often "ri", as in "Krishna", our version of कृष्णा. "Krishna" has been used so commonly in the west that "Krushna" never arises, but Krshna, Krsna, Krshn, and such things do arise in specialized usages, such as among the Hare Krishna folks, Sanskrit scholars, etc. Among those folks, there is often a dot under the "r", like Kṛṣṇa, but in ordinary English, we don't do that.

The "Jagriti" transliteration is the one currently preferred, because its form aligns with "Krishna", and "Sanskrit" for that matter. But "Jagruti" WAS commonly used in pub info pages, so in those examples, we just copy their usage, we do not correct or standardize them. "Jagrati" is another form that occasionally shows up. There are also sannyasins named Jagruti personally by Osho.

JJK's use of "Jagruti" was NOT necessarily a mistake, except from the pov of a scholar or system pusher. Their usage may reflect their best understanding at the time, and they were not illiterate. Usage may also have been coloured by their individual first languages, Hindi, Marathi, Gujarati or whatever. Mumbai was and is a great meeting place for all the streams of India. -- doofus-9 18:10, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

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The pub date for the 1974 "Guide Pocket Books" edition was decided on the basis of the info opposite the beginning of ch 1. It looks like a "Books in Print" page and in fact is, but only two of them are Osho books, the rest trashy potboilers. Of their "film scripts", all are from Bollywood films made in 1974, making the pub date probably late 1974. The Books in Print segment relating to Osho can be deemed worthless. His two books there are Sadhana Path and Main Mrityu Sikhata Hun (मैं मृत्यु सिखाता हूं). The slogan for this page: "Healthy pocket books for healthy entertainment". -- doofus-9 23:20, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

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