Talk:Samadhi Kamal (समाधि कमल)

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Current Understanding

event audio,
OshoWorld
audio,
Osho.com
1999, 2001 book editions;
Shailendra's PDF; Oshoganga (*1)
Osho.com library Dates & Places
Samadhi Kamal ~ 01 #1
incomplete?
1. जीवन की सहज स्वीकृति
"sound dropouts, incomplete"
1. जीवन की सहज स्वीकृति
incomplete?
1. जीवन की सहज स्वीकृति
incomplete?
unknown, Matheran?
Samadhi Kamal ~ 02 #2
incomplete
2. अप्रमत्त जीवन—निराधार, निरालंब, निर्विचार
"sound dropouts", incomplete
2. अप्रमत्त जीवन--निराधार, निरालंब, निर्विचार
incomplete
2. अप्रमत्त जीवन--निराधार, निरालंब, निर्विचार
incomplete
unknown, Matheran
Samadhi Kamal ~ 03 #3
incomplete
3. सम्यक आहार, सम्यक व्यायाम, सम्यक निद्रा 3. सम्यक आहार, सम्यक व्यायाम, सम्यक निद्रा 3. सम्यक आहार, सम्यक व्यायाम, सम्यक निद्रा unknown, Matheran
Samadhi Kamal ~ 04 #4 4. सबसे बड़ा चमत्कार—जल में कमलवत
"incomplete" (*2)
4. सबसे बड़ा चमत्कार--जल में कमलवत 4. सबसे बड़ा चमत्कार--जल में कमलवत unknown, Matheran
Samadhi Kamal ~ 05 #5 5. मैत्री भाव, आनंद भाव, समता भाव
"sound dropouts"
5. मैत्री भाव, आनंद भाव, समता भाव 5. मैत्री भाव, आनंद भाव, समता भाव unknown, Matheran
Samadhi Kamal ~ 06 #6 6. विचार के प्रति अपरिग्रह, तटस्थता और स्वतंत्र बोध 6. विचार के प्रति अपरिग्रह, तटस्थता और स्वतंत्र बोध 6. विचार के प्रति अपरिग्रह, तटस्थता और स्वतंत्र बोध unknown, Matheran
Samadhi Kamal ~ 07 #7 7. साधना के जगत में प्रवेश 7. साधना के जगत में प्रवेश 7. साधना के जगत में प्रवेश unknown, Matheran
Samadhi Kamal ~ 08 #8 8. आज का दिन अंतिम है 8. आज का दिन अंतिम है 8. आज का दिन अंतिम है unknown, Matheran
Jeevan Geet ~ 02 #9
(very bad quality)
Jeevan Geet 2. ध्यान आंख के खुलने का उपाय है 9. ध्यान आंख के खुलने का उपाय है Jeevan Geet 2. ध्यान आंख के खुलने का उपाय है 28 Oct 1966 pm, Nashik, meditation camp
Girah Hamara Sunn Mein ~ 05 #10 Girah Hamara Sunn Mein 5. रहस्य का बोध 10. अज्ञान का बोध, रहस्य का बोध Girah Hamara Sunn Mein 5. रहस्य का बोध 24 Oct 1966 am, Matheran, meditation camp
Girah Hamara Sunn Mein ~ 06 #11 Girah Hamara Sunn Mein 6. दमन नहीं, दर्शन 11. ध्यान--जागरण का द्वार Girah Hamara Sunn Mein 6. दमन नहीं, दर्शन 24 Oct 1966 om, Matheran, meditation camp
Girah Hamara Sunn Mein ~ 07 #12 Girah Hamara Sunn Mein 7. अंतर्यात्रा के सूत्र 12. शास्त्र, धर्म और मंदिर Girah Hamara Sunn Mein 7. अंतर्यात्रा के सूत्र 24 Oct 1966 pm, Matheran, meditation camp
Girah Hamara Sunn Mein ~ 08 #13 Girah Hamara Sunn Mein 8. आंतरिक अभाव का बोध 13. अभाव का बोध Girah Hamara Sunn Mein 8. आंतरिक अभाव का बोध 25 Oct 1966 am, Matheran, meditation camp
Jeevan Geet ~ 03 and Jeevan Geet ~ 05 (*3) #14 (*3) Jeevan Geet 3. विचारों से लड़ना मत, देखना (incomplete)
and Jeevan Geet 5. प्रकृति से आत्मीयता
14. एकांत का मूल्य (*3) Jeevan Geet 3. विचारों से लड़ना मत, देखना (*3)
Jeevan Geet 5. एकांत का मूल्य (*3)
29 Oct 1966 am and 30 Oct 1966 am, Nashik, meditation camp (*3)
Girah Hamara Sunn Mein ~ 09 #15
incomplete
Girah Hamara Sunn Mein 9. दिव्यता की ओर
incomplete
15. राजनीति से छुटकारा
incomplete
Girah Hamara Sunn Mein 9. दिव्यता की ओर
it seems complete
25 Oct 1966 om, Matheran, meditation camp

(*1) Chapter titles of Oshoganga has small differences with Shailendra's PDF's.

(*2) Although the audio marked on Osho.com as "incomplete", in fact it is complete as well as OW version.

(*3) Chapter 14 of Samadhi Kamal in OW audio, 1999 and 2001 book editions, Shailendra's PDF, Oshoganga contains two events of Jeevan Geet (3rd and 5th). 5th event starts from 22:07 in OshoWorld audio, from p.171 in Shailendra's PDF. But Jeevan Geet of Osho.com audios, 2015 book edition, Osho.com library and Oshoganga has separated events, i.e. 3rd and 5th events are ch.3 and ch.5.

Deliberations

विषय सूची (TOC):
1 : जीवन की सहज स्वीकृति
2 : अप्रमत्त जीवन—निराधार, निरालंब, निर्विचार ** (see note below)
3 : सम्यक आहार, सम्यक व्यायाम, सम्यक निद्रा
4 : सबसे बड़ा चमत्कार—जल में कमलवत
5 : मैत्री भाव, आनंद भाव, समता भाव
6 : विचार के प्रति अपरिग्रह, तटस्थता और स्वतंत्र बोध
7 : साधना के जगत में प्रवेश
8 : आज का दिन अंतिम है
9 : ध्यान आंख के खुलने का उपाय है
10 : अज्ञान का बोध, रहस्य का बोध
11 : ध्यान—जागरण का द्वार ** (see note below)
12 : शास्त्र, धर्म और मंदिर
13 : अभाव का बोध
14 : एकांत का मूल्य
15 : राजनीति से छुटकारा

Info about location of talks from personal correspondence. One possibility of doing something with this info is this: Neeten's Osho Source Book has listed a camp in Matheran in his Appendix section with unknown titles. It does not fit naturally though, so may only be a longshot. He has something on the 20th to 23rd of an unknown month in 1967 at Matheran, ten talks. If Samadhi Kamal were ten talks, we might sign on but it's fifteen. Could be split between ten in Matheran and five somewhere else like Mumbai; this kind of split has happened a few times but would certainly make it more of a stretch. -- doofus-9 (talk) 18:40, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Neeten can be reffered to Asambhav Kranti (असंभव क्रांति) Matheran med.camp with 10 talks, 18-21 Oct 1967.--DhyanAntar 03:59, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

ISBN of 1999 edition (81-7261-146-3) differs from ISBN of follow-up books (81-7621-146-3). --DhyanAntar 08:17, 27 October 2017 (UTC)


Source of above TOC is unknown but it largely checks out ok with the Contents image. ** = there are three small differences, indicated by the underlined words, two of which are inability to replicate ligatures, and thus of little consequence. The third is a small oversight in the text TOC, now corrected to align with the Contents image, and that is the second anusvara diacritic in "निरालंबं". -- doofus-9 06:25, 2 May 2018 (UTC)


This is not second anusvara. It looks as erroneous dot, which printed above but not straight above letter "b" ("ब"). 2001 edition and all other sources do not have this erroneous anusvara and google translate also suggests to correct to the word without this second diacritic sign निरालंब.--DhyanAntar 03:21, 10 May 2020 (UTC)


Extacts from:

Samadhi Kamal ~ 01: Osho two times mentions "a talk last night". Meditation in the end. Is this morning talk?

Samadhi Kamal ~ 02: question/answer format (maybe interview?). He says "we will be here for three days".

Samadhi Kamal ~ 03: q/a format. Some questions about a diet. In the end "now take the rest of the questions in the afternoon."

Samadhi Kamal ~ 04: q/a format. It is mentioned place Matheran in first question. "I said the day before yesterday, we teach the child..." "I said the day before yesterday to you that the prior scriptures of knowledge are meaningless." In the end: "Some more questions you have, we will consider them tomorrow."

Samadhi Kamal ~ 05: night talk. Osho said that he talked on diet, exercise, sleep (relation with Samadhi Kamal ~ 03). "I had said in the morning, when you wake up in the morning, you have the power of awakening, so in the morning we decided to consider the experiment that we have decided." (it can be refference to Samadhi Kamal ~ 02)

Samadhi Kamal ~ 06: "This is how I said nine things in three sections": 1) right diet, right exercise, right sleep (refference to Samadhi Kamal ~ 03), 2) three feelings (भाव के तल परः समस्त जगत के प्रति मैत्री भाव, कर्मों के प्रति अनासक्ति भाव और संवेदनाओं के प्रति समता का भाव।) (refference to Samadhi Kamal ~ 05), 3) three thing on idea (this is current chapter). "What I told you yesterday - that is the difference of thirst." (refference to Samadhi Kamal ~ 04) Mentioned Matheran ("My point is that if it is not difficult and can be found here and now, then why not take it from Matheran?") Morning meditation.

Samadhi Kamal ~ 07: "As I told you in the morning, all thoughts are defeated, all thoughts are defeated, but the use of foreign thoughts is also used."

Samadhi Kamal ~ 08: "We will be leaving tonight. Many things have been said in these three days." "Now we will sit for the last day's night meditation. There will be nothing after meditation." (It seems afternoon.)


Osho.com confirmes place for first 8 chapters (Matheran). Osho.com gives chrono order for books in its library: for 8 chapters of Samadhi Kamal it is between Sakshi Ki Sadhana (साक्षी की साधना) (also 6 or 8 talks, 25-28 Dec 1966) and Dhyan-Sutra (ध्यान-सूत्र) (12-15 Feb 1965). Shailendra thinks it can be true.--DhyanAntar 11:12, 12 May 2020 (UTC)