Talk:Upasana Ke Kshan (उपासना के क्षण)
- विषय सूची (TOC)
- प्रवचन 1: मन का विसर्जन . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
- प्रवचन 2: विसर्जन की कला . . . . . . . . . . . . 31
- प्रवचन 3: श्रद्धा, अश्रद्धा और विश्वास . . . . . . . 65
- प्रवचन 4: जीवन क्या है? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 99
- प्रवचन 5: निर्विचार परिपूर्ण शक्ति है . . . . . . 131
- प्रवचन 6: मन के पार . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 159
- प्रवचन 7: उपासना का मतलब: पास बैठना . . . 171
- प्रवचन 8: जीते-जी मरने की कला . . . . . . . . . 179
- प्रवचन 9: प्रयासरहित प्रयास . . . . . . . . . . . 197
- प्रवचन 10: सफलता नहीं, सुफलता . . . . . . . . 233
- प्रवचन 11: अलोभ की दृष्टि . . . . . . . . . . . . 265
Free download audio sites show there were 12 discourses, but two consecutive ones were very short and likely were combined when published as a book. Osho World's audiobook has only eleven, with the same titles as above.
Meanwhile, there is a possible anomaly regarding the publisher of the edition shown. Some sites say it is Osho Media International, some Rebel. nbd. And its ISBN 978-81-7261-282-5, is not findable except @ one bookseller. Sigh. -- Sarlo (talk) 23:07, 28 March 2014 (PDT)
Apr 2017 update: A closer look at the audiobook offerings of OW and osho.com show a further anomaly looming regarding the number of talks and/or chapters. O.com in fact is only offering ten mp3's but they specify that #6 and #7, with the same titles as above, are combined into one, with that combined total still only 29 min. They note further that seven of the eleven talks are incomplete -- ¿how incomplete exactly? is of course not known -- and the other four talks have sound dropouts.
So a whole series with poor audio. Meanwhile, the discrepancy between the audio count(s) and the chapters is worth at least a mention. In fact, one bookseller site, Exotic India Art, even supplies a full TOC with page numbers in aid of selling their 2013 OMI edition, so those page numbers have been added to the TOC above. AND, the book's chapter titles match those of the audiobooks, mirabile dictu. And there are only the eleven, so the odd man out is the free audio sites with their twelve. Let's let that slide for now and call it a good day. -- doofus-9 21:45, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
Shailendra states title for ch.9 in his e-book - प्रयास रहित प्रयास, which differs the gap only. --DhyanAntar 04:48, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Dates and Places info is in from Jagdish and confirms that the magic number is eleven. All the discourses are from early days, with a couple very early, so no surprise that there are some sound issues.
- 1. Apr 24 1964 Bombay
- 2. Apr 25 1964 Bombay
- 3. Apr 1 1967 Hyderabad
- 4. Apr 11 1968 Bafnaji's house, Poona
- 5. Jul 24 1968 Dhanpatbhai's house, Bombay
- 6. Mar 11 1969 Porbandar
- 7. Jun 4 1969 Udaipur
- 8. Jun 6 1969 Udaipur
- 9. Nov 15 1969 CB Mehta's house, Bombay
- 10. Jan 20 1970 Bombay
- 11. unknown date Bombay
Ch.3 is press-conference.--DhyanAntar 16:15, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Date for ch 9 confirmed by Hindi series of talks with dates (source document), which calls it "Informal Talk by Osho". -0- doofus-9 01:47, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
media status
The free offering of OW has 12 mp3s.
osho.com mentions 10 audios, with 6 and 7 combined into one, so 11 discourses:
- #1: मन का विसर्जन - (sound dropouts) 97min
- #2: विसर्जन की कला - (sound dropout) 102min
- #3: श्रद्धा, अश्रद्धा और विश्वास - (incomplete) 64min
- #4: जीवन क्या है? - (incomplete) 57min
- #5: निर्विचार परिपूर्ण शक्ति है - (sound dropouts) 79min
- #6: #6 मन के पार, #7 उपासना का मतलब: पास बैठना - Talks #6 and #7(incomplete) 29min
- #8: जीते-जी मरने की कला - (incomplete) 35min
- #9: प्रयास रहित प्रयास - (sound dropouts) 86min
- #10: सफलता नहीं, सुफलता - (incomplete) 61min
- #11: अलोभ की दृष्टि - (incomplete) 62min
Comparing the above list with the duration of OW: #1 - 5 can be the same, OW's 6 + 7 is about the length of osho.com #6, but thereafter it does not correspond anymore.
It needs to be researched what is what. --Sugit (talk) 13:48, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
