Talk:Vyast Jeevan Mein Ishwar Ki Khoj (व्यस्त जीवन में ईश्वर की खोज)
Current Understanding
| event | audio, OshoWorld |
audio, Osho.com (*1) |
1969 book edition | 1998, 2017 book editions (*2) | Shailendra's PDF, Oshoganga (*3) | Osho.com library | Dates & Places |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Vyast Jeevan Mein Ishwar Ki Khoj ~ 01 | #1 missing last 8,5 paragraphs |
1. व्यस्त जीवन में ईश्वर की खोज missing last 8,5 paragraphs |
1. व्यस्त जीवन में ईश्वर की खोज (text edited and missing some text-fragments) missing last 2,5 paragraphs |
1. व्यस्त जीवन में ईश्वर की खोज | 1. व्यस्त जीवन में ईश्वर की खोज missing last 8,5 paragraphs |
1. व्यस्त जीवन में ईश्वर की खोज (complete) | Mar 1969 16:00, D.B. Club, Jabalpur |
| Vyast Jeevan Mein Ishwar Ki Khoj ~ 02 | #2 | 2. असंग-भाव की साधना, "NO AUDIO FILE" |
2. असंग-भाव की साधना | 2. असंग-भाव की साधना | 2. असंग-भाव की साधना | ≤ 1974 | |
| Vyast Jeevan Mein Ishwar Ki Khoj ~ 03 | #3 | 3. आनंद का सृजन (*1) | 3. आनंद का सृजन | 3. आनंद का सृजन | 3. आनंद का सृजन | ≤ 1974 | |
| Vyast Jeevan Mein Ishwar Ki Khoj ~ 04 | #4 last 9 seconds can be a part of another talk |
4. साक्षी हो जाना ध्यान है (*1) | 4. साक्षी हो जाना ध्यान है | 4. साक्षी हो जाना ध्यान है | 4. साक्षी हो जाना ध्यान है | 10 Mar 1970, Bombay (*4) | |
| Vyast Jeevan Mein Ishwar Ki Khoj ~ 05 | #5 missing last 2 sentences |
5. धर्म, सम्राट बनाने की कला है (*1) missing last 2 sentences |
5. धर्म, सम्राट बनाने की कला है | 5. धर्म, सम्राट बनने की कला है | 5. धर्म, सम्राट बनाने की कला है | ≤ 1974 | |
| Vyast Jeevan Mein Ishwar Ki Khoj ~ 06 | #6 | 6. संन्यास: परम मुक्त जीवन (*1) | 6. संन्यास: परम मुक्त जीवन | 6. संन्यासः परम मुक्त जीवन | 6. संन्यास: परम मुक्त जीवन | ≤ 1974 |
(*1) These audios on osho.com have incorrect durations.
(*2) Comparing based on ch.-titles, so we did not check it on completeness.
(*3) Oshoganga has the same chapter titles except ch.5, which is "धर्म, सम्राट बनाने की कला है". (in Shailendra's PDF third word is "बनने")
(*4) Source of date stated in Talk:Chal Hansa Us Des (चल हंसा उस देस).
Deliberations
प्रवचन (TOC):
- 1. व्यस्त जीवन में ईश्वर की खोज
- 2. असंग-भाव की साधना
- 3. आनंद का सृजन
- 4. साक्षी हो जाना ध्यान है
- 5. धर्म, सम्राट बनने की कला है
- 6. संन्यास: परम मुक्त जीवन
TOC was found at Osho World, in their audiobook offerings. Osho.com has a similar audiobook offering but missing the second title (असंग-भाव की साधना), while making their number one spot blank, so their five talks run from 2 to 6, starting with व्यस्त जीवन में ईश्वर की खोज and the last four the same. -- updated doofus-9 (talk) 19:32, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Vyast Jeevan Mein Ishwar Ki Khoj translates to Seek the divine in a busy life. I wonder if the following has a bearing on this title.
Sw Ageh Bharti, in Beloved Osho ch.27, includes the text of a complete discourse, which he attended himself, with the title: Search for the Divine in a Busy Life. Apparently he has translated the Hindi to English himself.
Of this discourse he tells in ch.26:
- It was March 1969 Jabalpur. Osho's discourse has been arranged at 4 p.m. at the D.B. Club. The meeting is to be presided over by Brigadier R.S. Jaitley and the organizer is the Stores Officer Shri B.L. Naag of the Gun Carriage Factory, who on becoming a disciple later on came to be known as Sw Advait Bharti. [...]
- He (Osho) himself is driving the car. I look at the watch. It is 3.59. He has parked the car by the side of the road. Now he is coming out. When I went to him he told that Alok, the car driver, suddenly caught fever. When he informed Osho the latter decided to drive the car himself.
- Brigadier Jaitley, Colonel Mukherjee and Shri Naag welcomed him. Osho has now taken a seat on the stage. Osho asked Brig Jaitley about the topic on which he had to deliver his speech.
- Shri Jaitley said, "Life today is so busy. How is it possible to seek God?" [...]
No date is given, just March 1969. --Sugit (talk) 15:23, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Fabulous research! It does seem to be so, according to the new scans offered by Shailendra. This very BL Naag shows up as the compiler of this booklet. Under the title on the first text page it says "ek pravachan", one or just a discourse. Not, i would say, "discourse one". Making this booklet somewhat clearly a one-talk transcription, published in May 1969, ie fairly quickly.
And the book title is also the title of ch 1. So somewhere along the way, it has accumulated five other chapters to make the most recent collections. Lots more research remains :-) doofus-9 16:54, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
- Text is checked and compared and ch.27 of Beloved Osho is indeed Hindi's ch.1.
The list "Hindi-Diamond" from Shailendra states on existing of Diamond Pocket Books edition.--DhyanAntar 05:48, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
Osho.com library states 1969 in its Copyright claims. We know one talk in 1969 and other in 1970, rest 4 are unknown yet. So osho.com means that their dates from 1969 and further.--DhyanAntar 17:05, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
