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Ch.3 of Shailendra's PDF is ch.7 of ''[[Prem Hai Dwar Prabhu Ka (प्रेम है द्वार प्रभु का)]]''.
Ch.3 of Shailendra's PDF is ch.7 of ''[[Prem Hai Dwar Prabhu Ka (प्रेम है द्वार प्रभु का)]]''.
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It needs to check if ch. "युवा चित्त का जन्म" is [[Naye Manushya Ka Dharm ~ 05]].
It needs to check if ch. "युवा चित्त का जन्म" (also 7 ???) is [[Naye Manushya Ka Dharm ~ 05]].

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Lots of things to discuss here. First, the transliteration(s): Actually, it's not complicated. On the covers and in the Hindi text, it's always यौन, which "should" transliterate as Yaun, but this is done in very few places, so few that i have adopted the majority version, Yon. Searching for Yaun does not find Yon either, nor v v. Best search term to find it all is simply "Yuvak Aur." Note the correct transliteration in "Aur." Well, whatever. Yawn?

Related to this in an odd way is the almost alt-title, Yuvak Aur Seks, sometimes Yuvak Aur Sex, where the Devanagari would be सेक्स, if it were actually used, which is not known. But the title has been thus rendered in some accounts. Perhaps half-transliteration, half-translation. The ≤1965 and the 1974 editions have been represented in this way, according to Neeten's Osho Source Book (Bibliography section).

Then there is a consideration of the four constituent parts of Sambhog, of which Yuvak is one, at Talk:Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Or (संभोग से समाधि की ओर). One related matter that came to light while looking at Yuvak was the nine-chapter manifestation. In fact, osho.com even has an audiobook offering nominally for Yuvak of nine audios. As it happens, these correspond (sort of) to the middle nine chapters of Sambhog, which as we can see are the shuffled-together chapters of Yuvak and Nari Aur Kranti (नारी और क्रान्ति) (6 talks). And the 2013 OMI edition of Sambhog divides the eighteen chapters into three sections, the middle one being these nine chapters and called युवक और यौन.

These are the five chapters of the stand-alone Yuvak:

1. युवक और यौन
2. यौन: जीवन का ऊर्जा-आयाम
3. युवक कौन
4. युवा चित्त का जन्म
5. विद्रोह क्या है

Three of these chapter titles have appeared alone in other contexts. One of course is Yuvak Aur Yon itself (ch.1), another Yuvak Kaun? (युवक कौन?) (ch.3) and a third Vidroh Kya Hai? (विद्रोह क्या है?) (ch.5). It is not unlikely that all three appeared first as separate single-discourse booklets before being amalgamated into the five-chapter Yuvak. -- doofus-9 (talk) 00:01, 25 September 2014 (PDT)


TOC from Shailendra's ebook:

प्रवचन-क्रम
1. यौन : जीवन का ऊर्जा-आयाम
2. युवक और यौन
3. प्रेम और विवाह
4. जनसंख्या विस्फोट
5. विद्रोह क्या है
6. युवक कौन
7. युवा चित्त का जन्म
8. नारी और क्रांति
9. नारी--एक और आयाम

Shailendra states that that book (Yuvak Aur Yaun) is part of Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Or (संभोग से समाधि की ओर) - ch.6 - ch.14. Tenth chapter mentioned as no audio. --DhyanAntar 08:21, 26 August 2018 (UTC)


About "Yuvak Aur Yaun" (i.e. chapter 1), the Osho Source Book says: "- Yuvak Aur Yaun. 19.02.1969. Bombay University."

It seems clear that this is related to the mention in T.R.E.M.O.: "Feb 16 Bombay U, "Students and Sex".

So at least this has a narrow date-range now. --Sugit (talk) 09:29, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


media status

See Talk:Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Or (संभोग से समाधि की ओर).


Ch.3 of Shailendra's PDF is ch.7 of Prem Hai Dwar Prabhu Ka (प्रेम है द्वार प्रभु का).


It needs to check if ch. "युवा चित्त का जन्म" (also 7 ???) is Naye Manushya Ka Dharm ~ 05.