Talk:Zen Ki Ghoshna (जेन की घोषणा)

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A couple of things about the title:

The full English (original) title is "The Zen Manifesto: Freedom from Oneself". Often in such a title structure, only the first part would be considered the title, with the part after the colon the subtitle. Not so with this book. So, okay. But then in Hindi, the longer title is not used. It is simply Zen Ki Ghoshna, in pages around the net wherever the book is being offered. So, also okay. The subtitle, Svayam Se Mukti, is right there on the cover, in the same size font, but a different colour.

And this is the case even though Hindi booksellers have a tendency to make long extravagant titles by including what should be subtitles. And it is also the case despite the first mention of this book in the wiki, in a translation credit on Gyan Bhed's page, where it was written "Zena kī ghoshaṇā : svayaṃ se mukti" (derived from source unknown, and never mind the different transliteration). But the booksellers and publishers are unanimous in ditching the subtitle. So be it.

The other thing about the title is the Devanagari form of "Zen". There is considerable overlap and even confusion in Hindi between the sounds represented by J and Z. A great indicator of this is the small difference between them in writing them, ज and ज़. The character for the Z sound (or Za, to be completely accurate) has a little dot diacritic under it, called a nukta. This is the only difference, and it is not very noticeable. Even Osho would pronounce many of his Z's as J's.

This is reflected in alphabet listings as well. Some versions of the Devanagari character set include the nuktified forms of the five consonantal characters that are subject to nukta inflection and some don't. And so it is when we come to the title here. Nowhere is ज़ेन to be found, nary a nukta anywhere. It "should" be ज़ेन but it is not. It is जेन everywhere. Again, so be it.

While we are musing on curiosities connected with this book, we should mention the dual publishers, Diamond and Osho World Foundation. The claim of OWF was only found on Osho World's site, so this may be not a claim but a glitch.

The biggest curiosity is a particularly bizarre one, completely unnecessary to mention but here we are: When i was looking around for images for the cover, one odd image (right) came to some prominence, and that was a book cover for another author. Something about this other book and its author seemed familiar so i investigated, and lo, much turned out to be familiar.

The link from the G**gle image list took me to a page Diamond has created for a whole array of Osho's books, thirty or so. Among his books were a couple of interlopers, one being this book that caught my attention. It is a sensationalist book purporting to expose the whole alleged racket of diabetes diagnosis and treatment in the medical profession and offering a 72-hour diabetes cure. The author is a Dr Biswaroop Roy Choudhary, and indeed, i had encountered him before, though he wasn't a Dr then. Those adventures are detailed at Talk:Bharat Ke Jalte Prashna (भारत के जलते प्रश्न). And did i mention snake oil there? Yes i did.

Somehow, he manages to hijack searches -- like ISBN searches -- for Osho's books and get his own offerings included prominently among Osho's, though his books have zero in common with Osho's books, and are one bullshit scam after another.

Somehow ... well ... Enough for today? -- doofus-9 06:34, 11 June 2017 (UTC)