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:Question 1
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::For the last twelve years I have been waiting for the waters of my mind to clear, but the carts of situations and surroundings keep passing through them constantly. This will go on throughout life. Should I still keep waiting?
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::Lao Tzu says: The ego of a saint established in Tao is constantly disintegrating, like melting ice. Then shall we take it that a person can be established in truth in spite of the ego? Is it possible for a person to be called a saint or a sage in spite of his ego? Is the state of am-ness a mental state or a spiritual state? You also say that on the complete annihilation of the ego, the saint becomes god himself. Then is the saint separated from God as long as the am-ness remains?
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::While recounting the characteristics of a person who is established in the Tao, Lao Tzu says that such a person makes no declaration about himself. But Mansoor said, "Analhaq." The rishis of the Upanishad said, "Aham brahmasmi". Jesus said, "I am the son of God." Meher Baba said, "I am the avatar." How are these declarations connected with Lao Tzu's above mentioned words?
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:Question 4
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::In the last sutra yesterday it was said that he who has come to know the secret of the rest that follows naturally after every activity maintains his calm for all time. You have also said that intense activity is followed by deep relaxation. But our experience is that the calm attained by intense activity is also unstable since it too soon disperses. Please tell us how a permanent calm can be attained.
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:Question 5
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::You have said that those who attain the Tao look upon life as a constant danger and become grave. On the other hand, when you talk of Krishna, you say that life was a mere play to him. He laughed his way through life. Whatever he did was a dance, a frolic. You say that the behaviour of saints is bound to be different. This difference in behaviour we can understand but the difference in the very nature of Krishna and Lao Tzu is difficult to understand. Kindly explain.
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prevevent = Tao Upanishad Bhag 2 ~ 13 |
 
prevevent = Tao Upanishad Bhag 2 ~ 13 |
 
nextevent = Geeta-Darshan Adhyaya 10 ~ 01 |
 
nextevent = Geeta-Darshan Adhyaya 10 ~ 01 |

Latest revision as of 08:20, 14 June 2019

ताओ उपनिषद, भाग दो ~ 14

event type discourse
date & time 19 Apr 1972 pm
location Patkar Hall, Bombay
language Hindi
audio Available, duration 1h 15min. Quality: good (under revision).
online audio
video Not available
online video
see also
online text find a PDF transcript of this event
shorttitle WAY214
notes
synopsis
(Translated as in The Way of Tao, Vol 2 on CD-ROM)
Question 1
For the last twelve years I have been waiting for the waters of my mind to clear, but the carts of situations and surroundings keep passing through them constantly. This will go on throughout life. Should I still keep waiting?
Question 2
Lao Tzu says: The ego of a saint established in Tao is constantly disintegrating, like melting ice. Then shall we take it that a person can be established in truth in spite of the ego? Is it possible for a person to be called a saint or a sage in spite of his ego? Is the state of am-ness a mental state or a spiritual state? You also say that on the complete annihilation of the ego, the saint becomes god himself. Then is the saint separated from God as long as the am-ness remains?
Question 3
While recounting the characteristics of a person who is established in the Tao, Lao Tzu says that such a person makes no declaration about himself. But Mansoor said, "Analhaq." The rishis of the Upanishad said, "Aham brahmasmi". Jesus said, "I am the son of God." Meher Baba said, "I am the avatar." How are these declarations connected with Lao Tzu's above mentioned words?
Question 4
In the last sutra yesterday it was said that he who has come to know the secret of the rest that follows naturally after every activity maintains his calm for all time. You have also said that intense activity is followed by deep relaxation. But our experience is that the calm attained by intense activity is also unstable since it too soon disperses. Please tell us how a permanent calm can be attained.
Question 5
You have said that those who attain the Tao look upon life as a constant danger and become grave. On the other hand, when you talk of Krishna, you say that life was a mere play to him. He laughed his way through life. Whatever he did was a dance, a frolic. You say that the behaviour of saints is bound to be different. This difference in behaviour we can understand but the difference in the very nature of Krishna and Lao Tzu is difficult to understand. Kindly explain.


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