The Last Testament (Vol 1) ~ 24

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event type interview
date & time 10 Aug 1985 pm
location Jesus Grove, Rajneeshpuram
language English
audio Available, duration 0h 51min. Quality: good.
online audio
video Available, duration 1h 17min. Quality: good. Lots of music and dancing, 13 minutes before, 11 minutes after the interview.
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see also
online text find the PDF of this discourse
shorttitle LAST124
notes
About 18 minutes of the interview is shown in the Dutch TV documentary TROS Aktua - Rajneeshpuram Interview (1985).
synopsis
Interview. Announcements by Ma Anand Sheela : Marcel Bruyns from TROS TV, Netherlands.
CD-ROM on this chapter: Interview with Marcel Bruyns, TROS National TV, The Netherlands.
Question 1
Bhagwan, about your health. How are you doing?
Question 2
Your disciples laughing in the background, why do you think they laugh?
Question 3
How does it feel to be the master of half a million people around the world?
Question 4
Bhagwan, you have been silent for three and a half years. What made you decide to speak up again?
Question 5
How can you do that?
Question 6
Bhagwan, recently you made an attack on the churches and on Mother Teresa calling her a criminal and blaming her for the poverty and the anguish in the third world. Do you not believe that life is God-given?
Question 7
What do all the people in the world believe in, then?
Question 8
Are you a God?
Question 9
... Or a man? You are a man?
Question 10
But you are enlightened.
Question 11
You believe in polygamy, but you are afraid of over-population. You believe in free sex, and you are afraid of AIDS. How can you propagate polygamy and free sex without protecting your followers from AIDS?
Question 12
We know Bhagwan, that you are living a rather rich life. But do you think that life is worth living for the poor?
Question 13
And you don't want to help them?
Question 14
It doesn't matter to you that you are insulting maybe half the world by saying this?
Question 15
Do you really have to be a little bit out of your mind to become a sannyasins? You once said that.
Question 16
Aren't you freezing?
Question 17
Bhagwan, recently the Pope of Rome paid a visit to the Netherlands. Don't you think that you have to come there to see how your five thousand Dutch friends are doing?
Question 18
But you once called Holland your most orange country, so I wonder what you are doing in Oregon?
Question 19
Bhagwan, you have been making attacks on Ronald Reagan several times. I never heard you about the Russian leaders.
Question 20
But you do know about Afghanistan and the Russians being there.
Question 21
How do you know what you know then?
Question 22
She tells you?
Question 23
And she didn't inform you about the Russian leaders doing almost the same but them in another angle as the Western leaders?
Question 24
What will happen when you leave this planet, Bhagwan? Will there be another bhagwan?
Question 25
But now that you are here, your sannyasins will miss you when you are gone.
Question 26
So will there be another master?
Question 27
We heard this story of the reverend Jim Jones who ordered his followers to commit suicide. You once said that when you will go, many will follow. Do you mean this as a mass suicide?
Question 28
You don't want your disciples to follow you when you are dead?
Question 29
Is there a life after life? After death? A life after death?
Question 30
Do you mind when there are people that do believe?
Question 31
You don't want to take away hope from the people, do you?
Question 32
What is it, then, that people should have when they may not have hope?
Question 33
Is the message you are bringing only for sannyasins, only for 500,000 of your disciples? Or do you want to bring this message to more people in the world?
Question 34
How do you like my tie? This was the only red thing that I could find?
Question 35
You must love Sheela.
Question 36
She is red and all your disciples are red.
Question 37
So none of your cars is red, either?
Question 38
You are a very wise man.
Question 39
Is this climate fine for you, Bhagwan? Much better than in India?
Question 40
Are you creating a wonder here in the desert, Bhagwan?
Question 41
Is this a commercial, Bhagwan?
Question 42
But you have already ninety. Why would you have more?
Question 43
Every day another one?
Question 44
And you don't want to give them away to the poor people, I understood.
Question 45
I know, but can you give the poor people then maybe a bit of understanding, a bit of love?
Question 46
What you are advocating is love. Why don't you give love to people that need it?
Question 47
Are you a better showman than Ronald Reagan is?
Question 48
You are the guru of the rich, you say, and that means that you will never have very many disciples or followers, because the majority of the world is poor.
Question 49
You don't want to convert me, for example?
Question 50
Why not?
Question 51
Maybe I won't, Bhagwan, hearing about your ideas. Do you respect that?
Question 52
You were talking yesterday about how somebody can love Jesus Christ. I think hundreds of millions of Catholics can. And what is wrong with that?
Question 53
I must be a little bit in love with you, because I didn't smoke all day. I didn't drink. I had all my clothes dry-cleaned. And I have cold feet. Just to see you and to hear you saying what you want to say.
Question 54
So you don't want to take over the world, Bhagwan?
Question 55
You think that there is life on other planets?
Question 56
And does that come once together? Are we visiting them? Are they visiting us?
Question 57
Do you believe in UFO's? Unidentified flying objects, you know.
Question 58
People from other planets visiting us?
Question 59
Invading maybe? It could be a teacher of theirs, a master of the planets.
Question 60
What is your sex appeal, Bhagwan? You have so many gorgeous women around you and in your neighborhood.
Question 61
Are you a celibate?
Question 62
How do you spend your day since you don't read?
Question 63
Why do you speak up now after you have been silent for three and a half years? Is this because the fruit on the tree is ripe?
Question 64
It is there, right, but not for a new generation, Bhagwan, because you advocate complete birth control.
Question 65
Bhagwan, if you would be so kind to talk via me to your disciples, then the cameraman can make some cutaways in the meantime.
Question 66
You have so much love for me?
Question 67
I am not going to work seven days a week, Bhagwan.
Question 68
Then first you must have a golf course here, because I love playing golf.
Question 69
But they also are thinking of playing tennis, Bhagwan.
Question 70
I saw that your grass is greener than anywhere else.


(source:CD-ROM)


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