The Last Testament (Vol 3) ~ 10

event type	interview
date & time	1 Oct 1985 om
location	Sanai Grove, Rajneeshpuram
language	English
audio	Available, duration 1h 2min. Quality: good. Live music after the interview.
online audio	free download from OshoWorld
video	Available, duration 1h 5min. Quality: good, and strong video-noise from 1:00:46 to 1:00:50 (under revision).
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see also	timeline : Osho Timeline 1985 first edition : The Last Testament (Vol 3) (1994 on CD-ROM) other editions, translations and links
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shorttitle	LAST310

notes

synopsis: Interview. Announcements by Ma Prem Hasya : (name inaudible); CD-ROM on this chapter: Interview with Stern Magazine, West Germany.

Question 1

Bhagwan, you have read Sheela's interview with Stern magazine, and my understanding is also that you would like to clarify some of the points.

She claimed that a drug named ecstasy was used here in the commune. Did you ever use it or know that it was used here?

Question 2

So do you have any knowledge that this drug was used in fund-raising?

Question 3

She also claimed that you yourself use... not drugs but a lot of medicine. May I ask you if you're really using laughing gas twice a day and a lot of valium and tranquilizers?

Question 4

She said that she was around when your personal physician, Devaraj, showed you or recommended to you some medicine which is used to commit suicide. Did you ever plan to commit suicide?

Question 5

She mentions the sixth of July as the day of your planned suicide. How she is so precise about it?

Question 6

She is saying that you in a certain way blackmailed your people, because you said that the sixth of July and you could leave your body on this day, so....

Question 7

To buy you new things like diamond watches and Rolls Royces?

Question 8

But why your people or your trustees or your commune do feel this urge or do feel that they have to buy you new Rolls Royces on and on?

Question 9

Sheela mentioned that you want to be the man in the world with the most Rolls Royces.

Question 10

If that's true, what is the point to buy the new one for five hundred thousand dollars that she told us about yesterday?

Question 11

Sheela admits that she built or had built this hiding place, this tunnel, this way to escape. But she claims that it was your idea and it was for you.

Question 12

About the books she says -- about the books on weapons and poison -- she needed that because it was necessary to know something about these techniques, necessary to protect you. And she says, "as a murderess, would I have been so stupid to leave them behind?" that does make some sense to me.

Question 13

But knowing they were criminals, why didn't you stop them?

Question 14

I'd like to do that very much. She says she didn't take any money, she returned everything to you.

Question 15

What do you think will she do with the money? Will she try to open up or to build a new commune, and would you see that as a competition?

Question 16

She said that there are only thirty thousand sannyasins all over the world.

Question 17

There are a lot of rumors here in the commune. If I may ask, do you have any indication that you will be arrested or some other people will be arrested in the next forty-eight hours?

Question 18

How can you force these people to arrest all the others?

Question 19

So your reaction would be kind of a passive, peaceful resistance in a... in a Gandhian way?

Question 20

What can you do to avoid a confrontation?

Question 21

Is there not a certain risk that something will happen...?

Question 22

What will you do when they arrest only the other people, or some fifty or a hundred people but not you? Will you make the same offer yourself? Ask them to arrest you?

Question 23

What does it mean for your immigration status that you don't see yourself as a religious leader any more? Or do you see yourself as a religious leader without a religion?

Question 24

Do you have any information when these arrests are planned?

Question 25

But actually, under these circumstances -- them being cowards and all these kind of things -- you would prefer to be arrested?

(source:CD-ROM)