The Last Testament (Vol 3) ~ 25

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event type interview
date & time 15 Oct 1985 pm
location Sanai Grove, Rajneeshpuram
language English
audio Available, duration 1h 57min. Quality: good.
Live music after the interview.
online audio
video Available, duration 2h 1min. Quality: good.
online video
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online text find the PDF of this discourse
shorttitle LAST325
notes
synopsis
Interview. Announcements by unidentified woman: Guiseppe Josca, he's from Corriere della Sera, one of the biggest newspapers in Italy.
CD-ROM on this chapter: Interview with Guiseppe Josca, Corriere della Sere, Italy.
Question 1
Bhagwan, there are many questions that I want to ask you tonight, but first I'd like to clarify one point. You say that you are an ordinary man, but you live, you act, you even dress as an emperor. You have people who worship you, you have money, power. How do you explain this contradiction?
Question 2
A small book was sufficient to spread the teaching of Jesus or of Mohammed, and many people consider them good after hundreds of years. But there are many tapes of your speeches and statements by the thousands. Every single word you say is recorded, including this interview. Wouldn't you call this a cult of personality?
Question 3
I was at the Rajneesh Mandir this morning and I listened to your meditations. I had the impression at a certain point, with all respect, that you were offering easy solutions to impossible problems, like transferring part of the population of India to the Soviet Union, where plenty of land is available. Do you think that such ideas are really practical?
Question 4
Bhagwan, in your words Jesus was a communist, the first communist. Then what would you say about his representative on earth, Pope John Paul? The communists tried to kill him, apparently.
Question 5
Bhagwan, you were quoted as saying that you consider yourself the guru of the rich. What do you think we should do with the poor?
Question 6
Bhagwan, you proclaim that what some have called Rajneeshism is dead as a religious movement. How can a religion, a spiritual movement, cease to exist only because its leader says so?
Question 7
But there are people who say that raising the science of religion at this very moment may help with the state/religion controversy and the other problems that you are apparently having at the moment.
Question 8
What is your status with the immigration service?
Question 9
Your former secretary, Sheela, has denied all your accusations against her...
Question 10
She also said, and I quote: "I fear for my life. I know too much about him" -- that is you.
Question 11
Bhagwan, according to your statements and what everybody says here in the commune, it seems that Sheela was responsible for all the times, all the mishaps, whatever went wrong in the community was her fault. How can it be that she could do whatever she wanted for years without you or anybody else realizing it, trying to stop it.
Question 12
Well, what was the financial loss that the movement suffered because of Sheela's mishaps?
Question 13
Sheela also said, and I quote again, that "If there are any financial problems, you expensive tastes are in part responsible".
Question 14
Bhagwan, I don't know how many Rolls Royces you...
Question 15
Ninety. But what I want to ask you is this: When you started collecting them, or somebody suggested the idea… was that for the sake of publicity, to impress people, to induce the media to talk about you...?
Question 16
Did you pay those taxes?
Question 17
Bhagwan, I don't want to be irreverent, but don't you think one Rolls Royce would be enough even for your back?
Question 18
Bhagwan, do you have any idea how much is the movement worth at the moment? What is the patrimony of the movement? How much money do you have -- I mean not you, the movement -- how much money has it?
Question 19
How much money...?
Question 20
Edited excerpt: 11min 05sec, beginning of question 20 **
Bhagwan, you say that love is a liberation. But your enemies and critics maintain that some of the practices that the movement is encouraging seem to be inspired more than -- Mr. Hefner of playboy than by a spiritual leader. What is your reaction to this?
Question 21
Bhagwan, what is more dangerous for humanity: AIDS, nuclear armament, or poverty and hunger in the third world?
Question 22
Why? How can you be so sure, as you say that AIDS will kill two-thirds of humanity?
Question 23
But don't you think that science, medicine, can find a remedy for it?
Question 24
Bhagwan, Christianity is often the object of your sarcasm and criticism.
Why not Islam, which seems to be more aggressive at this moment?
Question 25
What do you think of Khomeini?
Question 26
Bhagwan, in a few weeks time, Reagan and Gorbachev will meet in Geneva. What would you suggest to them?
Question 27
If the politicians cannot preserve the peace and save the world, who could do it?
Question 28
Do you consider yourself a revolutionary?
Question 29
You don't seem to very popular in this area of the country, this part of the county...
Question 30
Do you fear for your life?
Question 31
I've seen many armed people in this commune.
Question 32
And if somebody tried to kill you...?
Question 33
How did you first get your inspiration for your philosophy, your approach to religion and life? When was it that you first started thinking about it, and how?


(source:CD-ROM)


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