The Zen Manifesto ~ 05

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event type discourse & meditation
date & time 4 Apr 1989 pm
location Gautam the Buddha Auditorium, Pune
language English
audio Available, duration 1h 54min. Quality: good.
Osho leading meditation from 1:28:11.
10 minutes of live music after the discourse.
online audio
video Available, duration 1h 52min. Quality: good, but a constant audio-noise.
online video
see also
online text find the PDF of this discourse
shorttitle ZENMAN05
Reader of the sutra: Ma Prem Maneesha. Questions are being read by Osho himself.
After discourse Osho leads No-Mind Meditation.
The sutra
Once, Hotetsu -- a disciple of Ma Tzu -- and Tanka Tennen, were on a Zen tour visiting various Zen masters to ask questions. One day, Hotetsu saw fish in a pond and motioned to them with his hand.
Tanka said, "Tennen."
The following day, Hotetsu asked Tanka, "What is the meaning of what you said yesterday?"
Tanka threw his body to the ground and lay there, face down.
On his last day, Tanka said to his disciples, "Prepare a bath for me -- I am now going."
Then he put on his straw hat, held a stick in his hand, put on his sandals and took a step forward. But before his foot touched the ground, he had died.

Question 1
I heard you say that we sometimes carry other people's wounds.
What does this mean?
Is another person's wound simply their thought pattern that we adopt? If we can so easily accept someone else's wound then why is it so difficult to accept our own buddhahood?
Question 2
What is the relationship between Zorba and Zen?
Question 3
I understand from listening to you that although Mahavira and Buddha were enlightened, they still retained something of their former Hindu conditioning which colored their expression of truth.
In the therapies here, through your discourses, are you cleansing our minds from all conditioning so that we emerge as Buddhas who are absolutely free of conditionings?
Question 4
Beloved Osho, if I understand him rightly, Hubert Benoit seems to think that one does not need a master to learn how to let go. He writes, "I have need of a master to learn some movements that I wish to make with my limbs, but I have no need to learn how to decontract my muscles. I have need of a professor of philosophy, or of poetry, in order to learn how to think in the truest or most beautiful way; I have no need of such a person if I wish to learn not to think."
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