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event type | interview |
date & time | 14 Sep 1985 pm |
location | Sanai Grove, Rajneeshpuram |
language | English |
audio | Available, duration 2h 3min. Quality: good. Live music after the interview. |
online audio | |
video | Available, duration 2h 23min. Quality: good, but a slight constant audio-noise. |
online video | |
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online text | find the PDF of this discourse |
shorttitle | LAST224 |
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- Interview. Announcements by (unidentified woman): (inaudible).
- CD-ROM on this chapter: Interview with John Dettinger, California Magazine, Los Angeles, CA.
- Question 1
- I'd like to know how many communes are there and where are they located?
- Question 2
- Why do so many come from West Germany, why are the largest number of communes in West Germany? Could it have anything to do with Adolf Hitler and the holocaust?
- Question 3
- On what grounds would they arrest you?
- Question 4
- That is surely a civil suit between you and the Nazi Party.
- Question 5
- Our government is well known for its religious tolerance.
- Question 6
- It beats persecution. Governments elsewhere have been known to persecute on religious grounds.
- Question 7
- That seems to be the attitude of the German government at the moment.
- Question 8
- So then you are persecuted here (inaudible) tolerated?
- Question 9
- You mean the Constitution of the United States?
- Question 10
- We've been most impressed in Los Angeles, in California, at how well the commune has won each case and insisted upon the American way being served.
- Question 11
- Even in Oregon there's a grudging respect for your triumphs.
- Question 12
- With so many sannyasins -- a million of them worldwide -- I understand that you personally choose each sanskrit name for each sannyasin. Is that correct?
- Question 13
- How do you arrive at the appropriate name for each sannyasin? How do you manage that? And if you could also explain what the value of taking a different name than one's family name.
- Question 14
- Does the mala have healing powers?
- Question 15
- I heard that when the commune began here in Oregon that there was a day off, but then something happened that caused you to institute a seven-day work week. Could you talk about that?
- Question 16
- I heard that when there was a six-and-a-half-day week, on the half day off there was a tragic accident and that a sannyasin who was a member of the commune drowned. And it was from then on, perhaps lest he fall into oblivion, that the seven-day work week was instituted.
- Question 17
- I believe it was 1982 that you suggested to the Californian sannyasins that they move out of the state. Could you tell us about that?
- Question 18
- Are you referring to the law that the L.A. city council passed recently that makes it a civil offense to fire a homosexual who has AIDS or a person who has AIDS not for health reasons?
- Question 19
- It is a strange paradox. We in California had thought it was an enlightened policy to incorporate cities that had a large voting population of gay people and protect their civil rights. Now, the L.A. city council last week passed a city ordinance, that made it a finable offense to dismiss and thus endanger the civil rights of a person who is afflicted with AIDS from any job, including jobs where he may be handling food, dealing with the public on a personal level like that. It is naturally quite controversial. What do you think of that?
- Question 20
- Is that a hopeless retardation?
- Question 21
- I don't think you have many gay people in your commune.
- Question 22
- In 1979 the American psychiatric association declared that homosexuality was not a medical disease, and the presumption was that since it was a sexual preference it need not be helped.
- Question 23
- Paul Bunyan?
- Question 24
- You've told me that only two sannyasins have so far come up with AIDS, although four more have come in making a total I presume of six at the hospice. Can you call it a hospice, the place in Desiderata where they are?
- Question 25
- But it is a place where they can come to spend their final days?
- Question 26
- Whether or not they have AIDS.
- Question 27
- If a person has AIDS and is not a sannyasin, could he come to the ranch and stay in that faraway place?
- Question 28
- I first heard you describe, last month, this program of caring for victims of AIDS who are sannyasin; that because these people had nothing to lose they could make love with each other and perhaps through that could be cured.
- Question 29
- How is your health?
- Question 30
- You complained less than a year ago that you were ailing from a variety of causes.
- Question 31
- What symptoms does it take when it does?
- Question 32
- Why do you have such an abundance? Surely you can only ride in one at a time.
- Question 33
- Isn't that a bit of overkill, though?
- Question 34
- People in Los Angeles will truly appreciate that. You know, they say that there's more Rolls Royces in Los Angeles than there are....
- Question 35
- Some of my friends who are not sannyasin, particularly because California is such a health-conscious place, such a robust, active sports-minded place -- possibly because of the climate, they find it hard to resolve the fact that you have poor physical health and yet are enlightened.
- Question 36
- Could you give some examples of the consciousness going against biology and natural instinct and that sort of...?
- Question 37
- Yet there are some yoga teachers, particularly in....
- Question 38
- Do you practice hatha yoga?
- Question 39
- I understand that you swim for your health.
- Question 40
- How often and where and what do you wear?
- Question 41
- I have a short list of prominent American people, and I was hoping that you might be able to give just a brief impression, one line or so, about each, if I might run it down. For instance, what do you think of Johnny Carson?
- Question 42
- Nathan Pritikin?
- Question 43
- I beg your pardon?
- Question 44
- Jerry falwell?
- Question 45
- Do you watch movies?
- Question 46
- Have you any favorites? Any movies that you've enjoyed? Or actors?
- Question 47
- The david brooks production.
- Question 48
- The Cecil B. De Mille version?
- Question 49
- The one with Charlton Heston?
- Question 50
- Or the early... He did two, you know. He did one that was silent, I believe.
- Question 51
- Have you seen these recently, because they are at least top of the charts in terms of American popularity.
- Question 52
- Neither Woody Allen, for instance? Or prince? How about Jesse Jackson? Now, he's a politician, and surely....
- Question 53
- Have people been seeking the movie rights for that book from you, sir?
- Question 54
- Is it being made by sannyasins?
- Question 55
- Where might I find a print?
- Question 56
- I understand that when the university began with you in Poona, some called it Esalen East. Esalen is a growth center in California. How does your university differ from California growth centers?
- Question 57
- The prognosis at your university in my particular case was that I had the California syndrome. I was one who professed a great eagerness to change, to transform myself, to drop the mask, to discover my original face but though I proclaimed that, I was unwilling simply to do it. I find myself still on the cusp. How can I move?
- Question 58
- Must one come to the commune to do this? It seems a heavy price to give up the world as I know it to enter the alternative society.
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