The Last Testament (Vol 4) ~ 19

event type	interview
date & time	27 Nov 1985 9:30
location	Span Resort, Manali (HP)
language	English
audio	Available, duration 1h 26min. Quality: very inferior: strong noise, from 23 min to 27 min barely audible, from 27 min to 42 min sound is lost (under revision).
online audio	free download from OshoWorld
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see also	timeline : Osho Timeline 1985 first edition : The Last Testament (Vol 4) (1994 on CD-ROM) other editions, translations and links
online text	find the PDF of this discourse
shorttitle	LAST419

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synopsis

Interview. Announcements by Sw Prem Amrito : S.P. Schinner the staff correspondent for Der Spiegel (inaudible).

CD-ROM on this chapter: Interview by Der Spiegel.

Question 1

Yours has been the classical return of the native. Now that you are back in India, do you think this time you will be able to improve the quality of environment in India?

Question 2

So you are not sure if you would settle in India?

Question 3

Well, uh, you are in the land of the Manu and the Himalayas. Do you feel any regret at the incidents of the past few months, your ignominy in U.S. jails?

Question 4

That may be a harsh word, but how do you... feel unhappy, or you take it in the stride as others have done, as Buddha has done, as Socrates has done as you say, you take it in the stride?

Question 5

You mean to say that the American bureaucracy and administrators by and large are, they're fascist?

Question 6

Well, has your movement broken up?

Question 7

Have your supporters deserted you?

Question 8

How has your movement become stronger?

Question 9

It seems to be to me a contradiction in terms. On the one hand you call the Americans or the administration of a bureaucracy fascists.

Question 10

On the other, you say America has helped your movement? I mean... I think...

Question 11

But they have a democratic judiciary. They have a democratic judiciary.

Question 12

So you think it is a diabolical strategy a mixture of force and threat?

Question 13

Thirty million you said?

Question 14

It seems a little strange that for twelve days you were tortured in the U.S. jails and subjected to all kinds of physical indignities that I read in newspapers. And then you were powerful all over the United States. They were (a) passive witness to this. They could have asked president Reagan, appealed to president Reagan and asked him to put some pressure on them to prevent this. How is it that they couldn't prevent a situation like this?

Question 15

You have said that they wanted to kill you. There was a bomb incident in the jail, you know.

Question 16

Now, in the jail is it they really wanted to kill you?

Question 17

But was there some other incidents also to establish the fact that they wanted to kill you?

Question 18

So in other words, what I get out is they were resorting you indirect means...

Question 19

Do you think there was, uh, some kind of... God intervention there?

Question 20

(inaudible).

Question 21

What (inaudible) gets (inaudible) talk about (inaudible) democracy (inaudible)?

Question 22

(inaudible).

Question 23

I get back to (inaudible). What (inaudible) in India than even before? How (inaudible)?

[Note: audio almost not audible from 28:10 to 42:00, the part has not been transcribed.]

Question 24

Airplane pilot, American pilot?

Question 25

You could not ask them to switch them off?

Question 26

This amounts to third degree?

Question 27

You mean for twelve days you did not get any sleep?

Question 28

But they must have given you a classification -- C class, B class, A class.

Question 29

The jail manual entitles for daily medical checkup. Were you given a daily medical?

Question 30

In interviews to German publications, Ma Anand Sheela has come out with startling statements about you. She said that you take sixty milligrams of valium daily to keep calm, and that you take nitrous oxide, called "laughing gas", to look Mr Happy. Is it true?

Question 31

So these are false...?

Question 32

Sheela also alleges that her break with you came because of your many demands; one of them being two and a half million dollar diamond watch.

Question 33

Yes, that's obvious, that's obvious. That value is priceless it is made by your followers?

Question 34

Ninety-three she said.

Question 35

What did Ma Sheela write to you in a parting letter of September fourteenth -- she wrote a letter to you on September fourteenth. It was a parting letter. What did she write to you in that letter?

Question 36

What was the nature of her relationship with you?

Question 37

She was not at all spiritual?

Question 38

Why do you want to discourage kissing?

Question 39

Oh, I see. Even tears?

Question 40

So you would suggest that your people in the commune should rub their noses?

Question 41

Oh, I see. You mean pre-emptive steps.

Question 42

You have over three hundred books to your name, and only one on sex. And why is it that it is only this one that you are asked about?

Question 43

Is it possible?

Question 44

Playboy would run out of business.

Question 45

I have one last question... And that is, what are your plans for the future?

Question 46

Some time, some time... You will be here for some time?

Question 47

I think they are not giving you permission to buy your own... (inaudible) So, I give you my painting. (inaudible).

(source: a transcript)

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